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Tristan McLeay | 1 May 2004 03:30
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Re: Toolbar&Menus configlet for ROX

 --- Guido Schimmels <__guido__ <at> web.de> wrote: 
> I've created a configuration tool for ROX,
> equivalent to gnome-ui- 
> properties from the Gnome Control-Center.

It doesn't work. Or at least, only the toolbar style
(icon/text) works, and it only sometimes works (Galeon
but not the Filer, f'rinstance). Does it require
application support? Is there any way to get around
it? There are occasions when tear-away toolbars would
be useful, but nothing seems to respond. (I presume
the Filer's toolbar style option overrides Tb&M's. Is
there any way to stop it from overriding it?)

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Guido Schimmels | 1 May 2004 09:40
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Re: Toolbar&Menus configlet for ROX

Am 01.05.2004 03:30:17 schrieb(en) Tristan McLeay:
>  --- Guido Schimmels <__guido__ <at> web.de> wrote:
> > I've created a configuration tool for ROX,
> > equivalent to gnome-ui-
> > properties from the Gnome Control-Center.
> 
> It doesn't work. Or at least, only the toolbar style
> (icon/text) works, and it only sometimes works (Galeon
> but not the Filer, f'rinstance). Does it require
> application support? Is there any way to get around
> it? There are occasions when tear-away toolbars would
> be useful, but nothing seems to respond. (I presume
> the Filer's toolbar style option overrides Tb&M's. Is
> there any way to stop it from overriding it?)

Toolbar style works in two ways. One is per xsetting. This works with  
most gnome core apps (yelp, epiphany). The second is by setting the
/desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style gconf key. This works e.g. with  
fileroller and bluefish. ROX-Filer doesn't use gconf and also ignores  
the xsetting. Instead you have to set it from Options. I don't know if  
Thomas plans ROX-Filer to obeye to xsettings in the future.
Each application author can freely decide which type of setting to use  
or he may ignore both kinds and implement its own preferences, like  
ROX-Filer does. "Show Icons in Menus" and "Detachable toolbars" do not  
correspond to an xsetting, but a gconf key only. So those have only an  
effect on Gnome apps. ROX itself has no shared preferences for this.

So yes, I hope in the future you will be able to set the toolbar style  
for ROX-Filer from this configlet. I could only make that work now by  
manualy parsing Choices/ROX-Filer/Options. But that seems like a hack.
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Jan Wagemakers | 1 May 2004 12:23
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Re: ROX-Session 0.1.22

Thomas Leonard <tal00r <at> ecs.soton.ac.uk> schreef:

> Hi everyone, I've put up a new ROX-Session release:
> 	http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Session

I just like to inform everyone here that I won't update the
rox-session.deb's anymore. I still use rox and rox-session, but I don't
have the time and skills to create *good* rox-session.deb-files. So, I
think it is better that someone else takes over the creation of
rox-session.deb's.

But hey, don't be afraid, I won't go away ;-)
The coming days I'll try to update the Dutch translation of the new rox and
rox-session.

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Thomas Leonard | 1 May 2004 12:30
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Re: ROX-Session 0.1.22

On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 12:23:28PM +0200, Jan Wagemakers wrote:
> Thomas Leonard <tal00r <at> ecs.soton.ac.uk> schreef:
> 
> > Hi everyone, I've put up a new ROX-Session release:
> > 	http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Session
> 
> I just like to inform everyone here that I won't update the
> rox-session.deb's anymore. I still use rox and rox-session, but I don't
> have the time and skills to create *good* rox-session.deb-files. So, I
> think it is better that someone else takes over the creation of
> rox-session.deb's.

OK, thanks for all the work!

Note that if you want to use ROX-Session from Debian, you can also use the
zero install debian packages, and get the whole desktop that way.

Debian packages:

	http://www-i1.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~joachimk/debian/

Sources:

	http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/install.html

(perhaps someone could test it and update the wiki?)

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Jonatan Liljedahl | 1 May 2004 16:29
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RELEASE: OroboROX 0.8.6.4


OroboROX 0.8.6.4
================
This is a lightweight window manager specially designed for the ROX
Desktop.

It is still under development but works quite well already, so feel free
to try it out. The most important things to fix is a bug with
window-cycling (Alt+Tab) while there is iconized windows, and to add
Xinerama support and better EMWH compliance.
This new version has a totally new system of options: Themes and Schemes
are packaged as appdirs, and the other Settings + included themes and
schemes are now located in OroboROX/Configure/ (just right-click the
icon and choose "Options..." and you will get there).

Download:

	http://kymatica.com/rox/OroboROX/OroboROX-0.8.6.4.tar.bz2

Changes:

01-May-2004 
~~~~~~~~~~~
OroboROX 0.8.6.4

  Jonatan Liljedahl:

   * Moved settings, themes and schemes to APP_DIR/Configure/
     and removed all theme and scheme settings from Options GUI
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Humphrey Brown | 1 May 2004 17:48
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Install problems ROX 2.01 from RPMS in Fedora Core 1.0B


I learnt to know and love the ROX filer under RH8.    Now upgraded to 
Fedora Core 1.0B.  Following the instructions for RPM installs gave me:
[root <at> fuchsia rox]# rpm -ivh dbus-0.20-4.1.i386.rpm 
dbus-glib-0.20-4.1.i386.rpm cups-1.1.20-6.i386.rpm 
cups-libs-1.1.20-6.i386.rpm
error: dbus-0.20-4.1.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 30c9ecf8
error: dbus-0.20-4.1.i386.rpm cannot be installed
warning: dbus-glib-0.20-4.1.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 
30c9ecf8
error: cups-1.1.20-6.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID 30c9ecf8
error: cups-1.1.20-6.i386.rpm cannot be installed

Please let me know if any more info about my system (PIII w.128M) will 
help you.  I will try with the source.

Cheers
Humphrey

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Terry Blunt | 1 May 2004 18:05
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Re: RELEASE: OroboROX 0.8.6.4

Jonatan Liljedahl <than <at> home.se> wrote:

> 
> OroboROX 0.8.6.4 ================ This is a lightweight window manager
> specially designed for the ROX Desktop.

I seem to be unable to run this. I tried to set it as the default
desktop for ROX session but get the error message 'Unable to execute'
... 'permission denied'

Is there a particular place the App should be placed or some special way
it should be compiled. I don't seem to be able to find any instructions.

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Jonatan Liljedahl | 1 May 2004 18:14
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RELEASE: WinList 003

New version of WinList:

It's a simple panel applet that pops up a menu of all open window,
either on the current workspace only or on all workspaces, and lets you
select one of them to activate it. 
In other words, it could be a good alternative to a taskbar if you don't
want to fill up your panel...

This time it's written in pure python and does NOT need wmctrl
installed. So, just fetch the package, unarchive it and drop it on your
panel and it should work. (Please tell me if it doesn't).

Download link: http://kymatica.com/rox/WinList-003.tar.bz2

/Jonatan - [ http://kymatica.com ]

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Guido Schimmels | 1 May 2004 18:19
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Re: RELEASE: OroboROX 0.8.6.4

Am 01.05.2004 18:05:05 schrieb(en) Terry Blunt:
> Jonatan Liljedahl <than <at> home.se> wrote:
> 
> >
> > OroboROX 0.8.6.4 ================ This is a lightweight window
> manager
> > specially designed for the ROX Desktop.
> 
> 
> I seem to be unable to run this. I tried to set it as the default
> desktop for ROX session but get the error message 'Unable to execute'
> ... 'permission denied'
> 
> Is there a particular place the App should be placed or some special
> way
> it should be compiled. I don't seem to be able to find any
> instructions.

Add the path to OroboROX's AppRun to ~/Choices/ROX-Session/WindowMans
e.g. /usr/local/apps/OroboROX/AppRun
Now you can select OroboROX as your window-manager from ROX-Session's  
Options.

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Jonatan Liljedahl | 1 May 2004 18:30
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Re: RELEASE: OroboROX 0.8.6.4

On Sat, 1 May 2004 17:05:05 +0100
Terry Blunt <terry <at> langri.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Jonatan Liljedahl <than <at> home.se> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > OroboROX 0.8.6.4 ================ This is a lightweight window
> > manager specially designed for the ROX Desktop.
> 
> 
> I seem to be unable to run this. I tried to set it as the default
> desktop for ROX session but get the error message 'Unable to execute'
> ... 'permission denied'

You will have to enter the whole path to the AppRun script in
ROX-Session.
like this: "/usr/local/apps/OroboROX/AppRun"

(this is due to ROX-Session not supporting AppDirs yet!)

> Is there a particular place the App should be placed or some special
> way it should be compiled. I don't seem to be able to find any
> instructions.

No, you can place it anywhere.

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