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Delcides F. Sousa Jr | 1 Mar 2002 01:30
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Info/Feature Request

  Hi,

     I have been using rox filer for some time and I'm wandering if I
missed something in the docs. Here it goes: is it possible to open a
rox window with just selected files, as in 'ls l*.txt' ? I would type 

         rox --some-switch [A-Z]*htm

     and it would open a window with just the files that matched the
desired expression.

    Is this possible ? If not, is doable in foreseeable future ?

TIA

Delcides F. Sousa Jr.
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Thomas Leonard | 1 Mar 2002 15:52
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Re: Rox and amiwm

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 03:48:43PM +0100, Andre Eibel wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 09:39:09 -0500 (EST)  -  Gregory Spath
> <gspath <at> freefall.homeip.net> wrote:
> > try rox -o -p=name_of_pinboard_to_use
> 
> that is not working, the pinboard is either a) not displayed at all, or b)
> behind all virtual root screens.
> 
> amiwm uses a strange root screen setup, you have a actual root screen,
> with layes behind the virtual root screens where your programs are
> displayed.
> Getting rox to work on the real rootwindow is no problem, but there it
> is unusable since not visible.
> 
> same behavior as some programs have that set a image into the root
> window.
> esetroot for example paints the real root window, where xloadimage and
> xv set paint the virtual root window on which they are called, as
> expected and desired.

If you do an xprop on one of the pinboard icons, you should see this:

_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DESKTOP

This is set by the filer to tell the window manager than the icon is a
'desktop feature'. When -o isn't used, the window manager should use this
hint to put the icon in the correct place. Guess amiwm is ignoring it for
some reason... try pointing the developers at this:

	http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/wm-spec.html
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Thomas Leonard | 1 Mar 2002 15:54
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Re: Info/Feature Request

On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 07:30:54PM -0500, Delcides F. Sousa Jr wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
> 
>      I have been using rox filer for some time and I'm wandering if I
> missed something in the docs. Here it goes: is it possible to open a
> rox window with just selected files, as in 'ls l*.txt' ? I would type 
> 
>          rox --some-switch [A-Z]*htm
>   
>      and it would open a window with just the files that matched the
> desired expression.
> 
>     Is this possible ? If not, is doable in foreseeable future ?

You can open the window first, and then do

		Select If... -> '[A-Z]*htm'

From the shell, your only option is --show (which only works on a single
file). What do you want it for?

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Keith Warno | 3 Mar 2002 22:54
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pinboard arrangement

Greetings.

Don't gasp at a request for an M$-like feature :), but:

Is there plans for adding pinboard arrangement functions to rox?  Eg,
"auto" arrange, arrange by type, size, date, etc?  Such a feature would
be nothing more than a luxury for lazy bastards like myself, but useful
nonetheless.

Regards,
kw
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Andre Eibel | 4 Mar 2002 09:30
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Re: Rox and amiwm

On Fri, 1 Mar 2002 14:52:32 +0000  -  Thomas Leonard
<tal00r <at> ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

 
> If you do an xprop on one of the pinboard icons, you should see this:
> 
> _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DESKTOP

yup, i do see that
> 
> This is set by the filer to tell the window manager than the icon is a
> 'desktop feature'. When -o isn't used, the window manager should use this
> hint to put the icon in the correct place. Guess amiwm is ignoring it for
> some reason... try pointing the developers at this:
> 
> 	http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/wm-spec.html

Well, its not been developed now for like 4 years, maybe someone is picking up again, i don't know.
> 
> What exactly happens when you don't use '-o'?
> 
i get the desktop icons where they belong, just with a titlebar decoration.
if i use -o i get the icons how there where supposed to be, just on a wrong screen, where they are not visible and useable.

the panel otoh stays always on the right screen.
without -o it opens a normal window, with decoration an all, on the screen it was called on and behaves like a
normal nonsizeable window.
with -o it gets no window decorations as it should be, but stays on the very
top of all windows, and is not bound to a single screen, its there on all screens.
and its not coverable by fullscreen windows, it stays on top of then too.
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Stephen Watson | 6 Mar 2002 10:51
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Updates to apps, applets and patches at kerofin

I've updated my collection of apps and applets at
http://www.kerofin.demon.co.uk/rox/ so that they are at a stable release. 
Nothing much has happened to them in the last month or so, except that they
are all now ready for the shared library version of ROX-CLib.  Speaking of
which...

ROX-CLib version 0.2.0 and later supports building a shared library, using
libtool.  This has been tested on ARM Linux and Solaris.  Hopefully it also
works on other OS's, but I'm keeping 0.1.12 available for a while yet.

I've also updated my collection of patches for 1.2.0 and a later CVS filer.

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John Pettigrew | 7 Mar 2002 11:49

Newbie questions

I've just installed the ROX desktop on my new Linux setup. I'm new to Linux,
although I did use Unix quite a lot when I was at Uni. There are a few
questions that I'd like to ask about ROX.

First, how do I remove icons from the pinboard? There's a "Remove item" menu
entry on the menu for panel icons but not pinboard ones AFAICS.

Second, I've downloaded the "Browser" wrapper and would like it to run Opera.
This seems to require that I set my $Browser variable - where do I do this?

Third, how do I add the mount icons to the panel? I think I saw this on the
website but can't find it now.

Fourth, how do I install the ROX etheme?

TiA,

John
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Christopher Arndt | 7 Mar 2002 13:43
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Re: Newbie questions

John Pettigrew wrote:

> I've just installed the ROX desktop on my new Linux setup. I'm new to Linux,
> although I did use Unix quite a lot when I was at Uni.

Ah, another brave soul snatched from the embrace of the dark side ;-)

 
> First, how do I remove icons from the pinboard? There's a "Remove item" menu
> entry on the menu for panel icons but not pinboard ones AFAICS.

Which ROX version do you use? My version has such an entry (the last on 
the popup menu of pinboard items)

> Second, I've downloaded the "Browser" wrapper and would like it to run Opera.
> This seems to require that I set my $Browser variable - where do I do this?

Where did you get the Browser wrapper from? From the standard wrapper 
package?
See my webpage for a wrapper package that has a Browser wrapper that can 
start several webbrowsers:

http://www.chrisarndt.de/software/Wrappers.tar.bz2

The BROWSER ebvironment variable is set in the shell initialization 
files. Normally you'd have

<--- schnipp --->
BROWSER=opera
export BROWSER
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Thomas Leonard | 7 Mar 2002 13:44
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Re: Newbie questions

On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:49:26AM +0000, John Pettigrew wrote:
> I've just installed the ROX desktop on my new Linux setup. I'm new to Linux,
> although I did use Unix quite a lot when I was at Uni. There are a few
> questions that I'd like to ask about ROX.
> 
> First, how do I remove icons from the pinboard? There's a "Remove item" menu
> entry on the menu for panel icons but not pinboard ones AFAICS.

The pinboard and panel menus should be identical. What entries do you see?

> Second, I've downloaded the "Browser" wrapper and would like it to run Opera.
> This seems to require that I set my $Browser variable - where do I do this?

You can set environment variables in the ~/.xsession file, but you'll have
to log out before the changes take effect. Probably you want to edit
Browser/AppRun instead to run Opera directly.

> Third, how do I add the mount icons to the panel? I think I saw this on the
> website but can't find it now.

See the FAQ...

> Fourth, how do I install the ROX etheme?

Put it in ~/.enlightenment/themes (see Enlightenment's help).
It's not very good. Did anyone get anywhere with the sawfish theme?

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John Pettigrew | 7 Mar 2002 14:24

Re: Newbie questions

In a previous message, Thomas Leonard wrote:

> The pinboard and panel menus should be identical. What entries do you see?

I get the same menu on pinboard items as on the pinboard background -
Windows, Workspaces, Programs etc. This is using ROX-base 1.0.2 and ROX-filer
1.2.0, installed on SuSE Personal Linux 7.3 by manual install.

There might be something wrong with the install, though - should the ROX
session appear as a separate item on the login list? Because mine doesn't,
and I get logged into ROX whether I choose KDE, Gnome or anything else.
(Other users don't, of course, it's just me!) Is there a simple way to remove
all traces of ROX from my system and start again?

> > how do I add the mount icons to the panel? I think I saw this on the
> > website but can't find it now.
> 
> See the FAQ...

Talks about the icons but not how to get the devices mounted on the panel in
the first place...

As a followup to that, I noticed that the Gnome desktop had a useful menu of
drives that were simply mounted when selected. Is there any way of
duplicating this using ROX?

And, an entirely new question - is there a Director-like thing to add tree
menus to the filer windows in ROX? It's one of my favourite extensions to
RISC OS and it'd be nice to keep it under ROX.
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