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Thomas Leonard | 1 Oct 2001 17:35
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Re: Symlink / thumbnails

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:15:21PM +0200, Kristian A. Rink wrote:
> Hello all...

Hi!

> ..being on the way with Rox filer for quite some time now, already, and
> also being very pleased to work with right this piece of software since
> it's just pretty close to how I want a graphical file manager to be.
> Anyhow, I am left with two small questions of things I still didn't figure
> out in Rox filer:
> 
> (a) on my own machine, I am having quite an amount of directories with huge
> scanned images, so it's sort of nice to have the preview function of ROX
> filer for getting along with those. at least, it always takes quite some
> time to generate the thumbnail images since most of those pics are pretty
> huge pnm-files, so I wonder if there is a chance to get the thumbnails
> saved to disk and restored the very next time opening the directory? is it
> possible to use the xv / ee thumbnails (.xvpics/) with ROX filer?

There's a new standard for storing thumbnails being finalised at the
moment. We'll support (most of) it when it's done.

> (b) on one of the machines at work, I introduced Rox because I convinced
> people to use a GNU/Linux desktop, and there I am using a lot of symlinks
> since most of those using this machine aren't very familiar to the Unix
> file system hierarchy. Sadly, I couldn't get Rox filer, while following a
> symlink to some directory, to jump to the directory where the symlink was
> rather than to the 'real' parent directory of the path I currently am in,
> while using the 'change to parent dir' button in Rox filer. Did I miss any
> configuration option, or is this not implemented? If not, I'd kindly like
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Jim Knoble | 1 Oct 2001 22:51
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Re: Symlink / thumbnails

Circa 2001-Oct-01 16:35:58 +0100 dixit Thomas Leonard:

  [following symlinks back up the directory tree.]

: I've added it to the TODO list, anyway ;-)
: 
: The two approaches under consideration are:
: 
: - Get the titlebar to show the path used to get to the directory, rather
:   than the normalised pathname. Make going up remove the last entry from
:   the path (but how do you go to the real .. directory?)

[Control+Shift+LeftClick] on the up-arrow toolbar button?

: - Automatic bookmarks get set when you close a window or follow a symlink.
:   Use that to return instead of clicking on Up.

Or, use a "back" arrow button as well, much like a *cough* web
browser....

I'm more in favor of the first solution myself.  It's what bash and
other modern shells have been doing for a while.  In fact, with bash,
it's right difficult to change to the "real" parent directory when you
got there by following a symlink.  I think that's preferable, as it
make symlinks work more like they ought to.

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Thomas Leonard | 2 Oct 2001 18:30
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Memo 1.0.0

Hi,

I've finally made a stable release of Memo, an alarm-clock vaguely similar
to RoughTime:

	http://rox.sourceforge.net/memo.php3

People who are using the previous (0.1.1) release should upgrade, as the
last version had problems storing memos with certain characters. No-one
has reported experiencing the problem, but you should upgrade anyway.

This version should be pretty stable.

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Neal | 2 Oct 2001 22:39
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Re: Memo

Thanks Thomas!!
Memo now occupies a permanent spot in the lower left corner of my
screen.

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tuomas kokki | 8 Oct 2001 08:28

rox-filer crash

Rox filer 1.1.7 crash after deleting file(s). It just disappear without any error messages. Everything
else works fine. I tried too older stable version 1.1.5, but problem didn`t disappeared.
Some info about my system. XFree86 4.1.0, GTK+ 1.2.10, gdk-pixbuf-0.11 and distro is PLD. but anyway this
is the best filemanager for X.
Thanks.
Sorry my bad english.
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Thomas Leonard | 8 Oct 2001 12:39
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Re: rox-filer crash

On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 02:28:12PM +0800, tuomas kokki wrote:
> Rox filer 1.1.7 crash after deleting file(s). It just disappear without
> any error messages. Everything else works fine. I tried too older stable
> version 1.1.5, but problem didn`t disappeared.  Some info about my
> system. XFree86 4.1.0, GTK+ 1.2.10, gdk-pixbuf-0.11 and distro is PLD.
> but anyway this is the best filemanager for X.
> Thanks.
> Sorry my bad english.

This might be the bug with the selection: if you unselect the files before
they get deleted then it shouldn't crash. The latest CVS version has this
fixed...

Let me know if that wasn't the problem! Thanks,

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Christopher Arndt | 8 Oct 2001 22:11
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2 feature proposals

I have 2 suggestions to make ROX even more useful:

1) In the shell-command minibuffer, when you hold down the control key and 
   hit return, execute the entered command in a terminal window (the
   program from the 'Xterm here' option or any program that supports the 
   '-e' option).

   You could then type '!' (Shell Command...), 'man foo' and
   <ctrl-return> e voilà!: a great man-viewer.

   This idea is actually 'borrowed' from the icewm taskbar CLI.

1a) Make it so, that if instead you hold down the shift key while hitting
   return, the equivalent of "xterm -e sh -c '<command>; read'" is
   executed, so that you can see the output of programs that exit
   immediately, fail etc., before hitting return to close the terminal
   window.

1b) For this to be really useful, add an option to rox, that brings up a
   rox window (home?), with the shell command minibuffer already active.
   You could bind this then to a key shortcut of your window manager and
   use it like the windows "Run..." startmenu entry. (Even with history!)

2) Could we define some standard document for the Help directory of ROX
   applications? 

   For example:

   If the user selects 'Help' from the menu of an appdir, rox looks for a
   directory named 'Help' inside the appdir (already does that), but then
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Christopher Arndt | 8 Oct 2001 22:34
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Re: Symlink / thumbnails

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Thomas Leonard wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:15:21PM +0200, Kristian A. Rink wrote:
> > (a) on my own machine, I am having quite an amount of directories with huge
> > scanned images, so it's sort of nice to have the preview function of ROX
> > filer for getting along with those. at least, it always takes quite some
> > time to generate the thumbnail images since most of those pics are pretty
> > huge pnm-files, so I wonder if there is a chance to get the thumbnails
> > saved to disk and restored the very next time opening the directory? is it
> > possible to use the xv / ee thumbnails (.xvpics/) with ROX filer?
> 
> There's a new standard for storing thumbnails being finalised at the
> moment. We'll support (most of) it when it's done.

I'd rather change the 'Create Thumbs' action into a 'Show Thumbnails'
toggle, just like 'Show Hidden'.

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Thomas Leonard | 9 Oct 2001 17:26
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Re: 2 feature proposals

On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 10:11:24PM +0200, Christopher Arndt wrote:
> I have 2 suggestions to make ROX even more useful:
> 
> 1) In the shell-command minibuffer, when you hold down the control key and 
>    hit return, execute the entered command in a terminal window (the
>    program from the 'Xterm here' option or any program that supports the 
>    '-e' option).
> 
>    You could then type '!' (Shell Command...), 'man foo' and
>    <ctrl-return> e voil?!: a great man-viewer.
> 
>    This idea is actually 'borrowed' from the icewm taskbar CLI.
>    
> 1a) Make it so, that if instead you hold down the shift key while hitting
>    return, the equivalent of "xterm -e sh -c '<command>; read'" is
>    executed, so that you can see the output of programs that exit
>    immediately, fail etc., before hitting return to close the terminal
>    window.

Yep... if anyone would like to write something that works with most/all
of the terminal emulators out there I'll include it. I thought someone was
already working on it, but that was a while ago.

> 1b) For this to be really useful, add an option to rox, that brings up a
>    rox window (home?), with the shell command minibuffer already active.
>    You could bind this then to a key shortcut of your window manager and
>    use it like the windows "Run..." startmenu entry. (Even with history!)

I can see we're going to need a more flexible interface to the filer, or
there will be way too many options soon!
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Andrew Flegg | 9 Oct 2001 16:38
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Actions based on names

Hi,

Am I being dumb or isn't it possible to configure an action based on a
file's name? e.g. when you run "Makefile", call `make -f Makefile`?

If not, then I'll x-post to rox-devel for a feature request ;-)

TIA,

Andrew

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