Mark Williams | 10 Feb 00:34
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Will we ever get an update?

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Daneel Yaitskov | 21 Jan 16:18
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where can I change an order of columns or hide some?

Hi,

Where can I change an order of columns or hide some?

The column size of a file in the list mode is to far. I want to move 
near the column to the column name.

I have found file "Options", but it hasn't got any of words: column, 
name, permission and analogous ones.

Daneel Yaitskov.
	

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Jon Strait | 11 Jan 00:00

Mini-buffer covering the last item in Rox-filer

I'm trying out the filer and love it, except for one annoyance:

When the mini-buffer is active on a multi-item List View, then the 
mini-buffer covers the last item in the list.  Naturally, this doesn't 
happen in the case of a single item in a List View, as the window must 
enlarge to make room for the mini-buffer.  I've found that this isn't a 
problem in the Icon View, because it appears that an extra blank line is 
reserved at the bottom of the viewing window, and the mini-buffer uses 
that space when it is active. 

This is all under the condition of always auto-resizing on a filer 
window that hasn't reached its maximum window size.

-- Jon

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Jim Lesurf | 2 Jan 13:38
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Command equivalent to left-click

I'm currently writing a simple ROX app which is to act as a 'demo' for some
people. The task is to be able to search a set of metadata I have and
identify which items meet the search keywords, etc. I have a system that
works moderately well, but has some snags which I'm sure can be overcome,
but I'm too ignorant as yet to solve!

The app works on the simple basis of starting an xterm and running the
program there so it can ask the user to type in the required keywords, and
then report its progress. However the main output is in the form of an HTML
file the user then can read and use. This lists detailes of 'found' items,
says which CDROM of the set they are on, and gives a URL that will let the
browser load them once the appropriate CDROM is mounted.

This works. But the process shows one irritating feature. This is because I
have (currently) to load the file into a browser by using the C system()
proceedure to issue something like 'firefox <filename>'. This has two
snags.

Firstly it means it has to name the browser, so I then have to have a user
changable setting for the command if they are using some other browser.

Secondly, the browser process is a child of the main application xterm
process. This means that if I close the xterminal window it abruptly also
shuts the browser down. It also means that if I use evince to view the PDF
files that are on the CDROM, firefox lets me do this OK, but any errors due
to the way I've had to tweak evince *not* to open absurdly large windows
then pop up in the xterm window!

If I click on the HTML file in a filer window then, of course, none of the
above occurs. Presumably because the browser process is then a child of the
windowing system. Alas, that means the user has to do this instead of
having the application get the browser to display the result.

So is there a simple command that will ensure the browser view of the
resulting file does *not* vanish if the xterminal window is closed, and
does *not* pass unwanted moans by evince back up to it?

With RO I'd use Filer_Run and that would solve the problem. But I'm trying
to get a version that lets me supply people with a ROX version - and
ideally one that also works for non ROX linux users who can start the
process by clicking AppRun.  :-)

FWIW I've tried using exec and adding &. Using & allows me to stop the
moans by evince from being passed to the xterminal, but doesn't allow the
browser to keep running if the xterm is closed. So clearly my ignorance is
holding me up. I'm assuming there is a Linux command equivalent to
Filer_Run that then use MIME, etc, to determine the action, but that I am
clueless as to what it is. This must be possible, surely?...

Slainte,

Jim

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Stephen Watson | 2 Jan 13:53
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Re: Command equivalent to left-click


Jim Lesurf <jcgl <at> audiomisc.co.uk> wrote: > > So is there a simple command that will ensure the browser view of the > resulting file does *not* vanish if the xterminal window is closed, and > does *not* pass unwanted moans by evince back up to it? > > With RO I'd use Filer_Run and that would solve the problem. But I'm trying > to get a version that lets me supply people with a ROX version - and > ideally one that also works for non ROX linux users who can start the > process by clicking AppRun. :-)
The command 'rox' is the ROX equivalent to Filer_Run. Unfortunately it vanished from recent versions of ROX-Filer, but it is very simple. If you installed ROX-Filer in ~/Apps then rox is: #!/bin/sh exec /home/stephen/Apps/ROX-Filer/AppRun "$@" (or wherever your home directory is). As you can see it simply runs ROX-Filer with the file as the argument. The filer then passes that to an already running instance of the filer (or becomes the instance if it can't find one) which then runs it according to the defined run actions. -- -- Stephen Watson http://www.kerofin.demon.co.uk/ If you read this on a mailing list, send any reply back to the list and not to me. Not even CC. Do you mind not farting while I'm saving the world? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev
Jim Lesurf | 2 Jan 18:26
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Re: Command equivalent to left-click

In article <gemini.kvmehk06wtwkg0kh4.stephen <at> kerofin.demon.co.uk>,
Stephen
Watson <stephen <at> kerofin.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Jim Lesurf <jcgl <at> audiomisc.co.uk> wrote: > > > > So is there a simple command that will ensure the browser view of the > > resulting file does *not* vanish if the xterminal window is closed, > > and does *not* pass unwanted moans by evince back up to it? > > > > With RO I'd use Filer_Run and that would solve the problem. > The command 'rox' is the ROX equivalent to Filer_Run. Unfortunately it > vanished from recent versions of ROX-Filer, but it is very simple.
[snip] Thanks. 'rox' used in that way works on the version I am using. :-) This is the version that is available via synaptic for Ubuntu. Maybe that is an old version, but apart from the pinboard oddities (which may be due to something else) it works nicely here. For the application I'm currently working on it is probably safer to use 'nohup' (now I have it pointed out to me!) as I want the result to also work for those *not* using ROX. However your explanation makes me ask a follow-on question. Given what you said, what is the safest approach for this for apps that other ROX users might also use? Asking as I have done some 'demo' ROX apps for Archive, and all being well want to cover this in future. Presumably from what you explain just using 'rox' may not work for some versions. Slainte, Jim -- -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev
Thomas Leonard | 2 Jan 14:00
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Re: Command equivalent to left-click

2012/1/2 Jim Lesurf <jcgl <at> audiomisc.co.uk>:
[ detaching child processes ]

> So is there a simple command that will ensure the browser view of the > resulting file does *not* vanish if the xterminal window is closed, and > does *not* pass unwanted moans by evince back up to it?
The "nohup" command will allow a process to out-live its session, e.g. $ nohup firefox > /dev/null (if you don't redirect stdout, it will create a file called nohup.out with the output) -- -- Dr Thomas Leonard ROX desktop / Zero Install GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 GPG: DA98 25AE CAD0 8975 7CDA BD8E 0713 3F96 CA74 D8BA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev
Jim Lesurf | 2 Jan 18:36
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Re: Command equivalent to left-click

In article
<cd53a0141001020500k7c122849tc824ac61409fe8f0 <at> mail.gmail.com>,
   Thomas Leonard <talex5 <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> 2012/1/2 Jim Lesurf <jcgl <at> audiomisc.co.uk>: [ detaching child processes ] > > So is there a simple command that will ensure the browser view of the > > resulting file does *not* vanish if the xterminal window is closed, > > and does *not* pass unwanted moans by evince back up to it? > The "nohup" command will allow a process to out-live its session, e.g. > $ nohup firefox > /dev/null > (if you don't redirect stdout, it will create a file called nohup.out > with the output)
Thanks! :-) The above is what I have chosen for this app as it should also let non-ROX-users run the app via AppRun. Although 'rox' as explained by Stephen also works fine here with ROX. I now recall reading about nohup in the past. But, typically, had forgotten all about it. Afraid this is an example of my tendency to forget or misunderstand things I've not used, and then find that I can't deduce the command from what is required. I guess this is a common problem for those like myself who are poor at programming, etc. Once you pointed out 'nohup' I immediately realised that 'no hangup' made sense as the correct command. But starting from knowing I didn't want the browser to vanish with the terminal window simply didn't lead me to that! I guess this is a bit like having to look up words you can't spell in a dictionary. Once you try the correct form you can find the word. Otherwise you keep having to try incorrect forms and going 'nope, not that one!'. :-) Slainte, Jim -- -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev
Scott Robinson | 1 Jan 05:42
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Problem with RDesktop

I just installed Rox Desktop onto Debian 5. On the session manager screen I have two options for Rox: one labeled Rox and the other Rox-desktop. When I log into either one however the only things that appear are: the home icon on the desktop and panel, plus two more folder icons on the panel: CDROM and hgfs.  I think I am missing something. For instance there is no icon for Apps or an icon to end the session on the bottom right. What may I check to troubleshoot this? 

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Re: Problem with RDesktop

2010/1/1 Scott Robinson <ahkira28 <at> gmail.com>:

> I just installed Rox Desktop onto Debian 5. On the session manager screen I > have two options for Rox: one labeled Rox and the other Rox-desktop. When I > log into either one however the only things that appear are: the home icon > on the desktop and panel, plus two more folder icons on the panel: CDROM and > hgfs.  I think I am missing something. For instance there is no icon for > Apps or an icon to end the session on the bottom right. What may I check to > troubleshoot this?
I can't remember what ROX-Session does by default these days, but that might be correct. You should be able to find the Apps directory from Home and drag that and ROX-Session onto the panel... -- -- Dr Thomas Leonard ROX desktop / Zero Install GPG: 9242 9807 C985 3C07 44A6 8B9A AE07 8280 59A5 3CC1 GPG: DA98 25AE CAD0 8975 7CDA BD8E 0713 3F96 CA74 D8BA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev
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Re: Problem with RDesktop

I can't locate any Rox app folder. All the filer does is browse my linux fs. And since there is no session manager the only way for me to logout is to turn off the power.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Thomas Leonard <talex5 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
2010/1/1 Scott Robinson <ahkira28 <at> gmail.com>:
> I just installed Rox Desktop onto Debian 5. On the session manager screen I
> have two options for Rox: one labeled Rox and the other Rox-desktop. When I
> log into either one however the only things that appear are: the home icon
> on the desktop and panel, plus two more folder icons on the panel: CDROM and
> hgfs.  I think I am missing something. For instance there is no icon for
> Apps or an icon to end the session on the bottom right. What may I check to
> troubleshoot this?

I can't remember what ROX-Session does by default these days, but that
might be correct. You should be able to find the Apps directory from
Home and drag that and ROX-Session onto the panel...


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