John Walicki | 2 Nov 22:28 2007
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LF Desktop Workgroup conference call schedule for the remainder of 2007


I have scheduled the LF Desktop Linux conference calls for the remainder of 2007.  
You are welcome to join us every other Wednesday at 1PM (Eastern).
  • Number: 1-877-346-9707
  • Passcode: 30118
  • Wednesday, November 07th, 2007 13:00 EST
  • Wednesday, November 21st, 2007 13:00 EST
  • Wednesday, December 05th, 2007 13:00 EST

To avoid confusion across the upcoming Daylight Savings Time change and timezones:  

http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2007&month=11&day=07&hour=18&min=0&sec=0
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2007&month=11&day=21&hour=18&min=0&sec=0
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2007&month=12&day=05&hour=18&min=0&sec=0

I will post agendas prior to the meetings.  Looking forward to the discussion.
-- John Walicki
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John Walicki | 7 Nov 04:19 2007
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LF Desktop Linux Workgroup Conference Call - Wed 11/7 1pm (Eastern)


When: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1PM (Eastern)
Number: 1-877-346-9707
Passcode: 30118

To avoid confusion across the Daylight Savings Time change and timezones:
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2007&month=11&day=07&hour=18&min=0&sec=0

Agenda
======
- Linux Client Survey 2007 at the half way point
- Since we last met on 10/24, we have added Brazilian Portuguese, Chinese and German translations.  
- I blogged about them here:
    http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/desktop-linux/2007/10/30/desktop-linux-2007-linux-desktop-survey-german/
     http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/desktop-linux/2007/10/26/2007-linux-desktop-survey-chinese/
     http://www.linux-foundation.org/weblogs/desktop-linux/2007/10/25/2007-linux-desktop-survey-brazilian-portuguese/
   
     Results at the half way point: 18702 survey participants
        English    - 10668
        Russian    -  4301
        French     -  1342
         Japanese   -   926
        Spanish    -   826
         Portuguese -   525
         Chinese    -    90
         German     -    24

Significant jump in English, Japanese, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese since we last met to review the stats.
     Results 10/24:
        English - 6853
        Russian - 3698
        French  - 1219
        Spanish -  163
        Japanese-   55

 - Initial results / Insights
     It would be great to push the survey over 20000 participants
    https://www.linux-foundation.org/en/2007ClientSurveyResults
    I plan to use Visualization tools from IBM to assist us in analyzing the data
      http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/app

 - Write-in Feedback
    http://developer.osdl.org/dev/dtl/survey2007/SurveySummary.html

- Drivers
 Based on the statistics from the Client Survey, we could suggest a prioritized list of drivers
 - http://linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DriversNeeded

- Desktop Linux activities/announcements
 - Impending launch of Fedora 8

- Followup topics
 - Face to face meeting for 2008 planning

Next meeting is
Wednesday, November 21st, 2007 13:00 EST

John Walicki
IBM Open Client Architect
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John Walicki | 21 Nov 16:58 2007
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LF Desktop Linux Workgroup Conference Call - Wed 11/ 21 1pm (Eastern)

As a reminder, I will host a LF Desktop Linux Workgroup conference call 
later today.

When: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1PM (Eastern)
Number: 1-877-346-9707 
Passcode: 30118 

To avoid confusion across the Daylight Savings Time change and timezones: 
http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2007&month=11&day=07&hour=18&min=0&sec=0

Agenda
====== 
- Wrapping up the Linux Client Survey 2007
- Statistics analysis - results / Insights 
     Close to 20000 participants provided survey feedback
    https://www.linux-foundation.org/en/2007ClientSurveyResults 

- Blogging and Press plans
 - To provide insight, I plan to use visualization tools from IBM to 
assist us in analyzing the data and getting people interested in it.
      http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/app
 - Several analyst and reporters have contacted the LF media team.
 - Do we want to prepare a press release or just blog about the results

 - There is ALOT of write-in Feedback to review
    http://developer.osdl.org/dev/dtl/survey2007/SurveySummary.html 

- Drivers 
 Statistics from the Client Survey, should suggest a prioritized list of 
drivers that the community should focus on
 - http://linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DriversNeeded

- Desktop Linux activities/announcements
 - Fedora 8
 - gOS

- 2008 Planning 
 - Face to face meetings / summits
 - Should we propose a mini-Summit at the 10th Anniversary Linux Symposium
   http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2008/cfp.php.

Next meeting is 
Wednesday, December 05, 2007 13:00 EST 
http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Desktop_Linux

John Walicki 
IBM Open Client Architect
Dan Kegel | 21 Nov 19:46 2007

Re: LF Desktop Linux Workgroup Conference Call - Wed 11/ 21 1pm (Eastern)

On Nov 21, 2007 7:58 AM, John Walicki <walicki <at> us.ibm.com> wrote:
> - 2008 Planning
>  - Face to face meetings / summits

You mentioned in the call that you were looking for possible events
for 2008's calendar.
I mentioned it might be worth listing a couple regional events.
http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/ is a regional annual conference,
organized by local LUGs,
which has surprisingly good presentations and attendance.  In 2008,
it's February 8-10.

- Dan
John Cherry | 27 Nov 01:46 2007
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Mandriva community picked up the survey

The Mandriva community picked up the survey...

http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/The+Linux+Foundation+Survey?language=en

We are already well over 20,000 and moving quickly toward 25K!  The 
numbers themselves are speaking volumes regarding the interest in 
desktop Linux right now.  Over 3/4 have enough confidence to deploy 
Linux for mission critical applications.

John
Amanda McPherson | 28 Nov 02:01 2007

Next LF Collaboration Summit


Save the date! We now have the final date and location of the next  
Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit. IBM is graciously hosting this 
event at IBM/University of Texas Commons Center in Austin, Texas.  
http://www.utexas.edu/commons/

The Summit will be April 8 - 10, 2008. The format will  be similar to 
last year: April 8th will be a general day with panels and general 
discussion and the inclusion of press and analysts. (And a social 
event!) Days two and three will hold workgroup meetings (such as DAM, 
LSB, CGL, etc) and collaboration sessions. I am working with leaders 
from the workgroups, the Technical Advisory Board, the Vendor Advisory 
Council and internal staff to organize the agenda. We should expect 
another great group of leaders from the development, distribution, end 
user, ISV and vendor communities.

We will also be launching a new events site  in January to handle 
registration for this and our other events (Linux Plumbers Conference, 
Kernel Summit, etc). Keep an eye out for that announcement. You can 
still access details from last year's Summit at http://www.linux-summit.org

If you are a leader of a workgroup and I haven't contacted you, please 
let me know if you'd like space at the summit and if you'd like to be 
involved in the agenda planning.

This should be an exciting and fruitful event. I look forward to seeing 
you all in Austin,

Amanda

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John Cherry | 28 Nov 20:19 2007
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OpenSUSE community

One last push on the desktop survey from the OpenSUSE community.

http://news.opensuse.org/?p=546

Yes, the survey will be closing on Friday (actually Saturday morning, 
but that is a bonus day).  The numbers to this point are:

English: 14,650
Russian: 4,409
French: 1,721
Spanish: 1,100
Japanese: 956
Brazilian Portuguese: 642
German: 225
Chinese: 153

Total: 23,856

Let's get the analysis going on the list.  Steven VN has written an 
excellent preliminary analysis of some of the data from the survey, 
coupled with info from a recent Forester study.  He also talked about 
applications and device support.  While Steven talked about preferred 
distributions, we need to be really careful about drawing conclusions in 
this space because of survey biases.

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9488592005.html

We are going to need volunteers to go through the masses of free text 
data in the various languages.  Alexey (from the Russian Academy of 
Science) will be looking at the Russian responses.  Please respond if 
you can help with responses for the following languages:

   French: ??
   Spanish: ??
   Japanese: ??
   Brazilian Portuguese: ??
   German: ??
   Chinese: ??

This will be a great opportunity for you to gain that fame and glory 
that you seek in the open source community!  If you can assist with this 
analysis, it would be a huge help.

A couple of weeks ago, the Desktop Linux call focused around the 
analysis of each of the survey questions.  I was out of the country when 
this call happened, but if anyone took notes at that call, would you 
post those notes to the list?

Cheers,
John
robert_weir | 28 Nov 21:42 2007
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Re: OpenSUSE community


lf_desktop-bounces-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org wrote on 11/28/2007 02:19:10 PM:
>
> Let's get the analysis going on the list.  Steven VN has written an
> excellent preliminary analysis of some of the data from the survey,
> coupled with info from a recent Forester study.  He also talked about
> applications and device support.  While Steven talked about preferred
> distributions, we need to be really careful about drawing conclusions in
> this space because of survey biases.
>

Along with the overall data, it would be good to see what structure there is to the results, e.g., how preference vary with company size, etc. If someone can point me to the raw data (or a spreadsheet or CSV file or similar) I can take a look in R to see what the correlations are.

-Rob (long time lurker, first time poster)
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John Cherry | 29 Nov 00:08 2007
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Re: OpenSUSE community

robert_weir@... wrote:
>
> lf_desktop-bounces@... wrote on
11/28/2007 
> 02:19:10 PM:
> >
> > Let's get the analysis going on the list.  Steven VN has written an
> > excellent preliminary analysis of some of the data from the survey,
> > coupled with info from a recent Forester study.  He also talked about
> > applications and device support.  While Steven talked about preferred
> > distributions, we need to be really careful about drawing 
> conclusions in
> > this space because of survey biases.
> >
>
> Along with the overall data, it would be good to see what structure 
> there is to the results, e.g., how preference vary with company size, 
> etc. If someone can point me to the raw data (or a spreadsheet or CSV 
> file or similar) I can take a look in R to see what the correlations are.
Rob, the raw data will be available on Saturday in a variety of 
formats.  In the mean time, I dumped out the data in HTML format a 
couple weeks ago which is complete with open text responses.  This 
should have enough information to get you started on the analysis.  
Check out...

http://devresources.linux-foundation.org/dev/dtl/survey2007/SurveySummary.html

John Walicki is planning to use the Visualization tools from IBM to 
assist in analyzing the data.  I suggest you coordinate the effort with 
John.

http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/app 
<http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/app>

>
> -Rob (long time lurker, first time poster)

We don't think of you as a lurker!  How is the battle going on the ODF 
front?

Cheers,
John

Gmane