Re: [U2] Universe Triggers

Crazy thought... Could it have anything to do with the VOC being too small?
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Re: [U2] Universe Triggers

Kevin,

I resized the VOC and it did not help at all.  It was worth a shot. Thanks
for the idea.

Curt Stewart
TRI-SYS Consulting
Integrated Multi-Value Business Solutions

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Crazy thought... Could it have anything to do with the VOC being too small?
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[U2] Microdata Conversion

To All:

The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now wanting to switch to a contemporary platform.

Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue a system that can run in Microdata
Flavor, ie Unidata or 2) do I endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually changing the
true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up on a D3 system.

Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to UD before me and there must have been a
dictionary converter to go from the 10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the original 10
line dict (attributed) on line 10 of the new dict item, replacing  <at> am with  <at> vm's.

I would like to gather opinions from anyone who has done such a conversion as well as from VAR's that could
facilitate either the specific sale and/or the conversion.

You may contact me directly at m.johnson <at> jaydeetrucking.com 

Thanks
Mark Johnson
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Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion

It's been a long time since I did one of these, but UniData has a conversion tool to switch DICTs.  It's pretty
good, but as always, you need to verify.

John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Miamisburg, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380

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Subject: [U2] Microdata Conversion

To All:

The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now wanting to switch to a contemporary platform.

Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue a system that can run in Microdata
Flavor, ie Unidata or 2) do I endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually changing the
true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up on a D3 system.

Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to UD before me and there must have been a
dictionary converter to go from the 10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the original 10
line dict (attributed) on line 10 of the new dict item, replacing  <at> am with  <at> vm's.

I would like to gather opinions from anyone who has done such a conversion as well as from VAR's that could

Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion

Hi, we did Reality to Universe years ago. The reality flavour supports
PQN and 10 item dicts, and most of the nice reality features. 

Les Sherlock Hewkin 
Project Manager
Group Financial Systems
I.T. Department
Ryehill House
Ryehill Close,
Lodge Way Industrial Estate,
Northampton.
NN5 7UA

T 01604 592289 
M 07917 856195

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Subject: [U2] Microdata Conversion

To All:

The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now
wanting to switch to a contemporary platform.

Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue

Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion

We also did a conversion from MD to UniVerse, stayed in reality flavor and
had very few problems. It's been so long ago I can't give any details but we
still have procs of both types and our dictionaries are a mixture of new and
old.

Jerry Banker

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Hi, we did Reality to Universe years ago. The reality flavour supports
PQN and 10 item dicts, and most of the nice reality features. 

Les Sherlock Hewkin 
Project Manager
Group Financial Systems
I.T. Department
Ryehill House
Ryehill Close,
Lodge Way Industrial Estate,
Northampton.
NN5 7UA

T 01604 592289 
M 07917 856195

Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion

Basically, the road ahead is wide open and the future is bright.
I've heard good things about Reality. They seem to be making a  
comeback. That would be an easy move.
jbase has a reality emulation and was written by microdata people.
Both universe and unidata have reality/microdata flavors.

Cache has a Reality emulation, and Reality applications migrate to it  
easily. I'm biased, but you should really look at Cache.

With all those options, there's no reason to consider D3 if you rely  
on PQN procs. mvBase does a form of PQN proc, but I don't know how  
compatable it is. From the documentation, it looks like it's all there.

On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:09 AM, MAJ Programming wrote:

> To All:
>
> The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now  
> wanting to switch to a contemporary platform.
>
> Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I  
> pursue a system that can run in Microdata Flavor, ie Unidata or 2)  
> do I endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually  
> changing the true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up  
> on a D3 system.
>
> Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to  
> UD before me and there must have been a dictionary converter to go  
> from the 10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the  
> original 10 line dict (attributed) on line 10 of the new dict item,  

Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion

> From: Ed Clark
> With all those options, there's no reason to consider 
> D3 if you rely on PQN procs.

I'll agree with all of Ed's other comments - except that one.
You can get RPL for D3, which is essentially compiled PQN.  All
of your F-OPEN, F-READ, and &/!/%/# buffers are there, plus more.
So D3 is as much on the table as any other platform.

I don't think anyone has mentioned QM yet, but I believe there is
strong support for PQN there as well.

One of my clients, a regular here, took several months to migrate
dicts from Pick-style A/S correlatives to Unidata.  Major pain.
Of all of the platforms available, I'd think Unidata is the most
difficult for migration of a really full-featured app.

Reality probably supports Microdata better than anyone -
including full PQN support.  Unless you feel compelled to move
from a Pick-based platform to a Prime-based platform with support
for Pick flavors, there's really no need to go that route.

Bottom line is that you can go anywhere you want with relative
equal pain or lack thereof.  Given that technically most of the
options are equivalent, my inclination would be to go with the
strongest vendor, best product support, best options for the
future, etc.

HTH

Re: [U2] Microdata Conversion

Mark,

How tightly is spooler manipulation integrated into the application? I'm
wondering if compatibility will affect your decision. Aren't there some
significant differences amongst the various choices?

Russ Watson
Asynchron Systems Inc.

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To All:

The day is finally approaching. One of my Microdata clients is now
wanting to switch to a contemporary platform.

Because of being a Microdata, I have a fork in the road: 1) Do I pursue
a system that can run in Microdata Flavor, ie Unidata or 2) do I
endeavour on the path of either programatically or manually changing the
true-PQN procs to more traditional PQ procs to end up on a D3 system.

Also, I recall one of my other clients having switched from MCD to UD
before me and there must have been a dictionary converter to go from the
10 line items to the 7 line items. That converter put the original 10

[U2] u2ug website down

Can anyone kick the tires on the u2ug website:

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