gezzzan | 30 Oct 12:47 2014
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[Tiki-devel] rel=external nofollow on external links in trunk

HiDevs

I am working in trunk on parserlib to change the icon for the external link and I noticed something with the feature_wiki_ext_rel_nofollow preference.

I have enabled feature_wiki_ext_rel_nofollow and added 2 external links to a wiki page like this: 

1) http://nfl.com -> in this case "rel=external nofollow" is NOT added

2) [http://nfl.com]  -> in this case "rel=external nofollow" is added

I found this related tracker item: http://dev.tiki.org/item1583

The last comment by Mark suggest that it should work out of the box for all external links if feature_wiki_ext_rel_nofollow is enabled.

Is it expected from users to use the brackets for external links or this a bug in the parserlib? 

thanks&cheers,
gezza
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Jean-Marc Libs | 28 Oct 18:14 2014
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[Tiki-devel] Community site SEFURL weirdness

Hi devs,

While answering another email, I just noticed that whenever I try to access
http://doc.tiki.org/Tutorials
I actually end up on:
http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tutorials&structure=Tutorials&redirectpage=Tutorials
Which is rather bad, SEFURL-wise.

Is that a misconfiguration, a new Tiki13 regression, something normal?
I'm puzzled,but I have to admit I never paid attention before :-(

Cheers,
J-M

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mekko | 28 Oct 16:18 2014
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[Tiki-devel] Optimizing query for listof child pages

Hi all,

may I ask if there is anyone with database knowledge amongst you who might
be able to optimize queries in Tiki?

I have a few quite large multilingual structures in my Tiki 9 (3 languages,
3 structures with 1000-2000 pages plus connected translations to the other 2
languages) and am facing performance problems while browsing. I could narrow
part of the problem down to the child page {toc} listing which uses the
function build_subtree_toc in structlib.php. As I do not know anything about
optimizing queries, I just did some quick reading and checked the query with
the EXPLAIN statement. Apperantly there is quite some potential for
optimization, as filesort is being used and some subquiers appear to not use
a where clause or anything else that could improve the speed.

Would you please be so kind to have a look at the query and point out some
improvement possibilities if you see any?

SELECT ts.`page_id`, `page_ref_id`, `pageName`, `page_alias`,
tp.`description` FROM `tiki_structures` ts 
 INNER JOIN tiki_pages tp ON tp.page_id = ( SELECT tp.page_id FROM
`tiki_pages` tr LEFT JOIN 
 tiki_translated_objects a ON tr.page_id = a.objId AND a.type = 'wiki page'
LEFT JOIN tiki_translated_objects b ON 
 b.type = 'wiki page' AND a.traId = b.traId LEFT JOIN tiki_pages tp ON
b.objId = tp.page_id OR tr.page_id = 
 tp.page_id WHERE tr.page_id = ts.page_id ORDER BY CASE WHEN tp.lang = 'en'
THEN 0 WHEN tp.lang = 'de' THEN 1 
 WHEN tp.lang = 'en-US' THEN 2 WHEN tp.lang = 'fr' THEN 3 WHEN ts.page_id =
tp.page_id THEN 4 ELSE 5 END LIMIT 1 ) 
 WHERE parent_id = 11009 order by `pos` asc

Many thanks in advance!
mekko

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Hubert Johanssen | 27 Oct 23:30 2014
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[Tiki-devel] CKEditor losing characters (keystrokes)

Hello,
has anyone ever observed the WYSIWYG editor in TikiWiki losing characters? It is relatively easy to observer in Tiki V12, where some characters are randomly "forgotten". In Tiki V13, I can observe less of this, but from time to time (autosave?) the editor forgets some seconds of typing.
Has this been observed by others, and is there any data collection I could do to nail the problem further?
Thanks,
hubert j.
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Gour | 27 Oct 12:47 2014
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[Tiki-devel] vanilla/original language.php file

Dear all,

few days ago I sent .../lang/hr/language.php file to my translation
friend which I inspired to help/do Croatian translation for Tiki.

Today I was puzzled a bit when he replied me that there is nothing to
translate. :-)

After inspecting the language.php file which I sent to him, I noticed
that there is no untranslated strings available which is, imho, very
strange since Tiki is the first project I did encounter where non-native
strings are absent from the language.php file or let's say crippled.

Moreover, another 'uhh' was to discover that .../lang/en/language.php
file contains:

$lang = array(
"faq" => "FAQ",
);

This approach makes translating things offline more complicated than it
should be 'cause I consider that *every* language.php file should be
*complete* in sense to have all the string pairs in the form:

"en string" => "non-en-language translation string"

This is the same method which is used in the operation of Tiki itself,
iow. if I select Croatian (Hrvatski) language within Tiki, then for
every non-translated term, Tiki simply displays original/vanilla/en
strings, so, imho, it shoud be the same with language.php files since it
would greatly simplify merging procedure for those doing translation
work offline.

The online translation which offers context is great, but don't assume
everyone can do it *always*.

So my question is: how to simply get or generate language.php for 'en' which contains *all* translatable strings?

And my proposal is to make all language.php files populated with all the
translatable strings to allow easy merging and offline translating.

Sincerely,
Gour

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Daniel | 26 Oct 02:10 2014

[Tiki-devel] mp4 plugin

Hello all, 


I'm using version 6 and version 12 ( yes, two sites)
I'm having difficulty with the mp4 plugin.

The problem

I want to show this .mp4 files on a wiki page and I can't. I've looked at the documentation at the
PluginMediaPlayer page and found I can use this plugin for an .mp4 file
I'm not sure if it is my inexperience of using a plugin into tiki or it is simply me. My question is simply:
How can I embed a video clip within a tiki?

Am I trying to fit something within something else that does not have any thing to do with each other?

My script

I've tried two scripts. Can you confirm they are correct?

Script number one

Here is a copy paste
{mediaplayer src="rootOfMySite.mp4&page=Slideshow", width=100%, height=600, type="mp4"}


Do you have a msg that says: install Macintosh? I do.

QuickTime Required

QuickTime is required to view this media. Download Here.

Script number two

This one bellow does not work at all, it shows a blank

Here is a copy paste
{mediaplayer mp4="humIdontKnowSourceFile.mp4&page=Slideshow", width=100%, height=600, type="mp4"}

Screen capture

Would it be because my source file is not external?
Here is the image screen capture

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Gary Cunningham-Lee | 24 Oct 16:45 2014

[Tiki-devel] Nowrap in responsive tables

Hi,

About the text not wrapping properly in responsive tables, I haven't 
seen any discussion of why this rule is in Bootstrap, but wonder what 
the best way to deal with it is. Bootstrap.css specifies

.table-responsive > .table > thead > tr > th {white-space: nowrap;}

So far in some .tpl files we added a div between div.table-responsive 
and table.table, which breaks the Bootstrap selector so the table 
defaults to white-space: normal. We can add the div to more instances 
where there's a problem, like the convene module where it was just 
noticed. Or we could add a rule in tiki-bootstrap_overrides.less to 
counteract the Bootstrap rule with CSS, to take care of every instance 
at once.

The CSS method would mean cleaner HTML, and I guess easier further 
adjustments if anything more is needed (i.e., just one place to change 
if there's a need to wipe the rule or something), albeit at the price of 
a bit more CSS. Any opinions?

-- Gary

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Joao Barcia | 23 Oct 11:21 2014
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[Tiki-devel] A nice forum/comments/bbs open source project

Have you seen this open source BBS system - http://www.discourse.org/ ?

It seems clean, functional and built on the same open source ideas as Tiki. I think it could really improve the forum/comments features of Tiki Wiki.

The license seems to be GPL v2.

I don't know if there are on going efforts to revamp the current forum system, so I apologize if this brings unnecessary entropy, just thought I shared it with you.

Cheers,
Joao
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Marc Laporte | 23 Oct 08:40 2014

Re: [Tiki-devel] PluginTrackerList, PluginTrackerFilter and tracker listing incorrectly report an empty data set

Oliver swapped from Xcache to OpCache and it's still not working:
https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=4542&threadId=4016&cookietab=2#threadId4016

This was working up to 2-3 weeks ago
http://suite.tiki.org/Tiki+Suite+Features (now empty list)

Perhaps a fix in 13.x had an unintended side effect?

Thanks!



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From: Marc Laporte
Date:2014-10-08 08:38 (GMT-05:00)
To: Tiki developers
Subject: Re: [Tiki-devel] PluginTrackerList, PluginTrackerFilter and tracker listing incorrectly report an empty data set

doc.tiki.org/Features has been intermittent so hard to pinpoint and solve the issue.

Look at the list here, which failed every time I checked for over 1 week:
http://suite.tiki.org/Tiki+Suite+Features

Thanks!


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From: Jonny Bradley <at> tiki.org>
Date:2014-10-08 05:50 (GMT-05:00)
To: Tiki developers <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Tiki-devel] PluginTrackerList, PluginTrackerFilter and tracker listing incorrectly report an empty data set


Hi Marc and all - i'm a bit lost here...

I've been visiting this page http://doc.tiki.org/Features frequently for the past few days and every time i've been it's been fine - i'm currently logged in, which may make a difference... also seems ok as anon at the moment.

Do i understand correctly from the bug report that the actual tracker 7 list https://doc.tiki.org/tracker7 also sometimes appears with no items, or the wrong ones, or just some? Again, it's always looked fine to me.

The link https://tiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=performance#content_admin1-2 below surely is referring to a different server, no? (and i thought cache was deprecated too). http://doc.tiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=performance#content_admin1-2 looks fine to me.

As i said, sorry - just not clear what's going on here, but i think i would suggest converting that page to use {list} plugins anyway, as trackerlist has always been messy and unreliable in parts, and {list} is the way forward imho.

My 2¢,

jonny


On 7 Oct 2014, at 23:25, Marc Laporte <marc <at> marclaporte.com> wrote:

> So the problem has been happening consistently for at least 1 week now.
>
> Intermittent issues are hard to track, but my hunch is that this is
> related to Bytecode Cache. That should be easy to test by changing
> that setting and seeing if it helps.
>
> Currently, an error is reported:
>
> https://tiki.org/tiki-admin.php?page=performance#content_admin1-2
> Using XCache. These stats affect all PHP applications running on the server.
>
> Configuration setting xcache.admin.enable_auth prevents from accessing
> statistics. This will also prevent the cache from being cleared when
> clearing template cache.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> M ;-)
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Marc Laporte <marc <at> marclaporte.com> wrote:
>> Not that I can discern
>> Reply is in comment here: http://dev.tiki.org/item4542
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Nelson Ko <nelson <at> wordmaster.org> wrote:
>>> I have commented on the bug: does it happen at specific times of the day or
>>> time interval?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Marc Laporte <marc <at> marclaporte.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Here is a problem reported as far back as February 2012
>>>> http://dev.tiki.org/item4542
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't corrupt data but it does give wildly inaccurate info. And
>>>> don't blame the plugin because it happens when listing the tracker
>>>> items as well.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
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Nelson Ko | 22 Oct 23:30 2014

[Tiki-devel] Covening a meeting to prepare for Tiki 14 meeting

Hi all,

I'm trying to convene a meeting (outside of the usual monthly webinar time) for preparation for Tiki 14, and have created a Convene plugin at https://dev.tiki.org/Tiki14

This first release focused meeting is to sync up on release process, current blockers, etc... 

If you could indicate which dates are possible (or suggest additional date/times) that will be much appreciated. 

Thanks!
Nelson.
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Robert Plummer | 21 Oct 17:11 2014
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[Tiki-devel] wikiLingo progress, the next chapter

Hi guys,
So we are starting to get attention from some larger projects that have interest in an editor that is stable.  We need team members for when we do get funding.  I'm looking for developers who are willing to contribute and learn to collaborate to make wikiLingo & tiki amazing.
Recently I worked with a company who shall remain nameless to improve Medium.js, we did a fantastic job.  Next we are looking for something bigger: kickstarter.

I would like to arrange a meeting for the team to get together and go over the kickstarter campaign.

Agenda:
  • Existing issues that need addressed
  • Features that need implemented
  • Kickstarted campaign & video
  • Partnership with NaturalNews.com to plug our wikiLingo campaign, they are a highly trafficked website that own two tiki implementations and want to see the language succeed
  • Mike Adams (aka the Health Ranger) has personally put his stamp of approval on wikiLingo's progress and what that means for our growth
  • Something you feel should be added?
Thoughts?


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