Re: cms Digest, Vol 46, Issue 2
I don't want to just do a vendor plug, but we're having great success
with a product called "Titan CMS". It is a .net CMS created by a local
vendor (Milwaukee, WI). We have 200+ non-technical web authors. It will
be our solution for both the external and intranet sites and supports
copying between them, page tagging, built in search engine, wysiwyg
editor, forms, etc. Pretty powerful for the price. www.northwoodsoft.com
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414.456.4700
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Hi,
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Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:15:51 +1100
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Hi all,
I've just published a one-page article outlining the time minimum time
needed to select a new CMS:
http://www.steptwo.com.au/papers/cmb_selectiontime/index.html
This is obviously not aimed at the "CM pros" on the list, but may be
useful in helping to set client expectations...
As ever, feedback is gratefully received.
Cheers,
James
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:15:15 -0600
From: "Austin, Darrel" <Darrel.Austin@...>
Subject: [CMS] .net options these days?
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James' article post (which is nice, btw!) reminded me that this list is
still alive.
Which is nice timing, is, once again, I'm in the middle of CMS research
hell. ;o)
We've spent 6 months trying to roll out a CMS solution via SharePoint
Server 2007. It failed. More for political reasons than technical, but
either way, it's been scrapped and I'm not looking for options. They
primary 'technical' issues were a) very hard to skin outside of
SharePoint's own preferred templates b) the CMS features are built ON
TOP of sharepoint, so the learning curve is large. c) admin interfaces
to update content are complex and overly tedious. d) we really didn't
need a lot of the features it forces upon you...page templates,
workflow, approvals, etc.
The catch is that we really need a MS-centric solution to make it easy
to sell to the server team. .net preferred.
5 years ago when we went through this process we found the options to be
slim. Products were either way overpriced or just completely inadequate
from a tech-management side (crappy templating systems, bad web
standards support, overly complex permissioning systems). So, we built
our own.
5 years later, one of the options on the table is for us to re-write our
internal application and release a 'v2.0' of it.
I'm all for that, as I really enjoy working on that type of work, but I
simply can't just accept that as the solution without first taking a
look as to what's out there.
So, any suggestions? Some details:
- the CMS solution will need to run our Intranet 'portal' and our
public web presense.
- we're still going to use SharePoint for internal collaboration. As
such, I have a hunch, over time, that the 'intranet' portal will become
more of a directory pointing to a lot of SharePoint collaboration sites.
- for now, though, the intranet is going to need to be a hierarchical
grouping of pages that will have text content, and links to documents.
We need to delegate permissions by regional office, then by department
within each office.
What I've begun to look at:
- DotNetNuke. Pros: Full 'CMS'. Cons: looks a lot like sharepoint.
Might have more features that we really need.
- Graffiti CMS. Pros: VEERY nice interface. Cons: mainly a blogging
engine, and doesn't quite seem to be built for the 'enterprise'.
- FlexWiki: Pros: Wikis are quick and dirty. Cons: well, it's just a
wiki. Probably a hard sell internally.
Any other OS and/or low-cost .net-centric CMS systems on the market
these days that I should take a look at? On my list of things to still
look at are Community Server (same company as Graffiti CMS), and Ubarco
(looks great, but might not yet be an established OS option).
-Darrel
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:50:07 -0500
From: Ed Kapuscinski <ed@...>
Subject: Re: [CMS] .net options these days?
To: "Austin, Darrel" <Darrel.Austin@...>
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Darrel
Have you heard about Umbraco? It's .NET and OS, a strange combo, but it
might be what you want.
http://umbraco.org/
I've never used it, but I'm thinking about checking it out shortly.
One of my coworkers really likes it though. It might be worth a look.
Ed
On Feb 11, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Austin, Darrel wrote:
> James' article post (which is nice, btw!) reminded me that this list
> is still alive.
>
> Which is nice timing, is, once again, I'm in the middle of CMS
> research hell. ;o)
>
> We've spent 6 months trying to roll out a CMS solution via SharePoint
> Server 2007. It failed. More for political reasons than technical, but
> either way, it's been scrapped and I'm not looking for options. They
> primary 'technical' issues were a) very hard to skin outside of
> SharePoint's own preferred templates b) the CMS features are built ON
> TOP of sharepoint, so the learning curve is large. c) admin interfaces
> to update content are complex and overly tedious. d) we really didn't
> need a lot of the features it forces upon you...page templates,
> workflow, approvals, etc.
>
> The catch is that we really need a MS-centric solution to make it easy
> to sell to the server team. .net preferred.
>
> 5 years ago when we went through this process we found the options to
> be slim. Products were either way overpriced or just completely
> inadequate from a tech-management side (crappy templating systems, bad
> web standards support, overly complex permissioning systems). So, we
> built our own.
>
> 5 years later, one of the options on the table is for us to re-write
> our internal application and release a 'v2.0' of it.
>
> I'm all for that, as I really enjoy working on that type of work, but
> I simply can't just accept that as the solution without first taking a
> look as to what's out there.
>
> So, any suggestions? Some details:
>
> - the CMS solution will need to run our Intranet 'portal' and our
> public web presense.
> - we're still going to use SharePoint for internal collaboration. As
> such, I have a hunch, over time, that the 'intranet' portal will
> become more of a directory pointing to a lot of SharePoint
> collaboration sites.
> - for now, though, the intranet is going to need to be a hierarchical
> grouping of pages that will have text content, and links to documents.
> We need to delegate permissions by regional office, then by department
> within each office.
>
> What I've begun to look at:
>
> - DotNetNuke. Pros: Full 'CMS'. Cons: looks a lot like sharepoint.
> Might have more features that we really need.
> - Graffiti CMS. Pros: VEERY nice interface. Cons: mainly a blogging
> engine, and doesn't quite seem to be built for the 'enterprise'.
> - FlexWiki: Pros: Wikis are quick and dirty. Cons: well, it's just a
> wiki. Probably a hard sell internally.
>
> Any other OS and/or low-cost .net-centric CMS systems on the market
> these days that I should take a look at? On my list of things to still
> look at are Community Server (same company as Graffiti CMS), and
> Ubarco (looks great, but might not yet be an established OS option).
>
> -Darrel
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:02:07 -0600
From: "Austin, Darrel" <Darrel.Austin@...>
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> Have you heard about Umbraco? It's .NET and OS, a strange combo, but
> it might be what you want.
> http://umbraco.org/
Indeed! Aside from DotNetNuke, I'm not aware of many OS/.net combos in
CMS land (which is really no surprise, of course).
I am going to be trying out Umbraco myself. They seem to be trying to
emphasize web standards and intuitive interfaces, so we'll see.
I think the only hang-up with that option will be that it appears fairly
new, and support options slim at the moment.
-Darrel
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Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:37:49 -0600
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It appears the list defaults to 'reply to sender'. I've gotten a lot of
off-list suggestions for both Ektron and Umbraco. So, I'd like to thank
everyone that responded with those suggestions. Both will definitely be
on my punch list for looking into. Thanks!
-Darrel
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