Peter Tröger | 7 Jul 00:28 2009
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Conference call - July 7th - 16:00 UTC

Dear all,

the bi-weekly DRMAA call is scheduled on July 7th, 2009. The meeting
starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this:

http://tinyurl.com/lkqm9v

The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun:

Phone number (toll-free from US): +001-866-545-5227
Access code: 5988285

Preliminary meeting agenda:

1. Meeting secretary for this meeting?

2. Acceptance of last meeting minutes

3. Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting  <at>  ISC 2009  -  Introducing  
the new DRMAA2 API Layout

Please note that the DRMAA2 draft document is currently under heavy re- 
ordering, due to the large amount of decisions at ISC.  The attached  
file is therefore only a snapshot.

Best regards,
Peter.

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Arnie Miles | 7 Jul 18:13 2009
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Re: Conference call - July 7th - 16:00 UTC


Did I miss something? I tried to dial in.

Arnie

Peter Tröger wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> the bi-weekly DRMAA call is scheduled on July 7th, 2009. The meeting
> starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/lkqm9v
> 
> The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun:
> 
> Phone number (toll-free from US): +001-866-545-5227
> Access code: 5988285
> 
> Preliminary meeting agenda:
> 
> 1. Meeting secretary for this meeting?
> 
> 2. Acceptance of last meeting minutes
> 
> 3. Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting  <at>  ISC 2009  -  Introducing
> the new DRMAA2 API Layout
> 
> Please note that the DRMAA2 draft document is currently under heavy
> re-ordering, due to the large amount of decisions at ISC.  The attached
> file is therefore only a snapshot.
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Peter Tröger | 7 Jul 18:33 2009
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Re: Conference call - July 7th - 16:00 UTC

Hi Arnie,

sorry, but we messed it up this time. The only person that knows the  
phone conference hosting code is not able to dial in today.

I will do my best to provide the announced summary on the list as  
written text. Please stay tuned ...

Thanks,
Peter.

Am 07.07.2009 um 18:13 schrieb Arnie Miles:

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> Did I miss something? I tried to dial in.
>
> Arnie
>
> Peter Tröger wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> the bi-weekly DRMAA call is scheduled on July 7th, 2009. The meeting
>> starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/lkqm9v
>>
>> The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun:
>>
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Peter Tröger | 20 Jul 23:09 2009
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Conference call - July 20th - 16:00 UTC

Dear all,

the bi-weekly DRMAA call is scheduled on July 7th, 2009. The meeting
starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this:

http://tinyurl.com/kkg7qx

The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun:

Phone number (toll-free from US): +001-866-545-5227
Access code: 5988285

Preliminary meeting agenda:

1. Meeting secretary for this meeting?

2. Acceptance of last meeting minutes

3. Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting  <at>  ISC 2009  -  Introducing  
the new DRMAA2 API Layout

Please note that the DRMAA2 draft document is currently under heavy re- 
ordering, due to the large amount of decisions at ISC.  The attached  
file is therefore only a snapshot.

I will not be able to join the conference, but Dan volunteered to take  
the lead.

Best regards,
Peter.
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Daniel Templeton | 21 Jul 08:00 2009
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Re: Conference call - July 20th - 16:00 UTC

Unfortunately, I have a previously scheduled customer meeting at that 
time, so I am also going to be unable to make the call.  Looks like we 
should plan to cancel for this week.  Should we plan for next week 
instead of waiting yet another two weeks?

Daniel

Peter Tröger wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> the bi-weekly DRMAA call is scheduled on July 7th, 2009. The meeting
> starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/kkg7qx
>
> The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun:
>
> Phone number (toll-free from US): +001-866-545-5227
> Access code: 5988285
>
> Preliminary meeting agenda:
>
> 1. Meeting secretary for this meeting?
>
> 2. Acceptance of last meeting minutes
>
> 3. Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting  <at>  ISC 2009  -  Introducing 
> the new DRMAA2 API Layout
>
> Please note that the DRMAA2 draft document is currently under heavy 
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Daniel Gruber | 21 Jul 08:55 2009
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Re: Conference call - July 20th - 16:00 UTC

Next week would be fine because I think it would be make no
sense without you and Peter to do point 3 on the meeting
agenda.

Daniel G.

On 07/21/09 08:00, Daniel Templeton wrote:
Unfortunately, I have a previously scheduled customer meeting at that time, so I am also going to be unable to make the call. Looks like we should plan to cancel for this week. Should we plan for next week instead of waiting yet another two weeks? Daniel Peter Tröger wrote:
Dear all, the bi-weekly DRMAA call is scheduled on July 7th, 2009. The meeting starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this: http://tinyurl.com/kkg7qx The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun: Phone number (toll-free from US): +001-866-545-5227 Access code: 5988285 Preliminary meeting agenda: 1. Meeting secretary for this meeting? 2. Acceptance of last meeting minutes 3. Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting <at> ISC 2009 - Introducing the new DRMAA2 API Layout Please note that the DRMAA2 draft document is currently under heavy re-ordering, due to the large amount of decisions at ISC. The attached file is therefore only a snapshot. I will not be able to join the conference, but Dan volunteered to take the lead. Best regards, Peter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- drmaa-wg mailing list drmaa-wg-F/d3TggoGCE@public.gmane.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/drmaa-wg
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Peter Tröger | 21 Jul 16:24 2009
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Conference call - July 21th - Cancelled

Due to the expected lack of participants, we unfortunately have to cancel the 
conf call again. We will follow Daniel's suggestion and have the call next week 
instead.

Please use the spare time to read the change log and the new IDL in the latest 
DRMAA2 draft I sent. These text blocks should give a good indication of the new 
concepts. We also still miss proposals for machine monitoring attributes (see 
earlier mail threads).

Best regards,
Peter.

Daniel Gruber wrote:
> Next week would be fine because I think it would be make no
> sense without you and Peter to do point 3 on the meeting
> agenda.
> 
> Daniel G.
> 
> On 07/21/09 08:00, Daniel Templeton wrote:
>> Unfortunately, I have a previously scheduled customer meeting at that 
>> time, so I am also going to be unable to make the call.  Looks like we 
>> should plan to cancel for this week.  Should we plan for next week 
>> instead of waiting yet another two weeks?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> Peter Tröger wrote:
>>   
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> the bi-weekly DRMAA call is scheduled on July 7th, 2009. The meeting
>>> starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/kkg7qx
>>>
>>> The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun:
>>>
>>> Phone number (toll-free from US): +001-866-545-5227
>>> Access code: 5988285
>>>
>>> Preliminary meeting agenda:
>>>
>>> 1. Meeting secretary for this meeting?
>>>
>>> 2. Acceptance of last meeting minutes
>>>
>>> 3. Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting  <at>  ISC 2009  -  Introducing 
>>> the new DRMAA2 API Layout
>>>
>>> Please note that the DRMAA2 draft document is currently under heavy 
>>> re-ordering, due to the large amount of decisions at ISC.  The 
>>> attached file is therefore only a snapshot.
>>>
>>> I will not be able to join the conference, but Dan volunteered to take 
>>> the lead.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Peter.
>>>
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>>>
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Peter Tröger | 27 Jul 15:15 2009
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Conference call - July 28th - 16:00 UTC

Dear all,

the next DRMAA call is scheduled on July 28th, 2009. The meeting
starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this:

http://tinyurl.com/mpeojt

The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun:

Phone number (toll-free from US): +001-866-545-5227
Access code: 5988285

Preliminary meeting agenda:

1. Meeting secretary for this meeting?

2. Acceptance of last meeting minutes

3. Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting  <at>  ISC 2009  -  Introducing  
the new DRMAA2 API Layout

This time, we will make it ....

Best regards,
Peter.

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Daniel Templeton | 28 Jul 18:02 2009
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Reminder: Conference call - July 28th - 16:00 UTC


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[DRMAA-WG] Conference call - July 28th - 16:00 UTC
Date: 	Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:15:35 +0200
From: 	Peter Tröger <peter@...>
To: 	drmaa-wg@...

Dear all,

the next DRMAA call is scheduled on July 28th, 2009. The meeting
starts at 16:00 UTC. For time zone conversion, check this:

http://tinyurl.com/mpeojt

The phone conference line is sponsored by Sun:

Phone number (toll-free from US): +001-866-545-5227
Access code: 5988285

Preliminary meeting agenda:

1. Meeting secretary for this meeting?

2. Acceptance of last meeting minutes

3. Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting  <at>  ISC 2009  -  Introducing  
the new DRMAA2 API Layout

This time, we will make it ....

Best regards,
Peter.

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Daniel Gruber | 28 Jul 19:27 2009
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Conference call minutes - Jul 28th 2009

Attendees:
   Peter Troeger
   Dan Templeton
   Roger Brobst
   Daniel Gruber

* Meeting Secretary:
   Daniel Gruber

* Report from DRMAA2 Face-To-Face Meeting  <at>  ISC 2009  -  Introducing the 
new DRMAA2 API

1. Renaming "job category" into "configuration name"
and "native specification" into "native options" in order to provide
a better description for these mechanisms (and therefore adoption) for 
user.
-> collecting names from used "configurations" in order to abbreviate later
a naming scheme

2. restartable session and concurrent session

* SessionManager is connected to a single DRM
-> TODO do we have a problem with the contact string?
- with session name older sessions can be opened
- Sessions are only a DRMAA concept and re-opening will work
only on same machine with same user
- init() and exit() not longer required

* MonitoringSession:
- for separation
- additionally machine monitoring
- global view which is not connected to a submission session
- read only
-> getListOfJobs() getListOfMachines()
- how to get information? create new query language? use job template 
concept? use JSDL?
- TODO have a closer look
- a problem could be the amount of data

3. Representation of jobs via Job object
- more clean
- job methods directly operates on jobs
- in language bindings (like C) there would be still a job id
- they could build a wrapper in order to call functions which needs the 
job ids

4. The difference of old synchronize() and wait() is hard to understand
- New model: job session level and job level
- job reaping not longer in API
- TODO problem with JobSession.waitAny() which is based on transitions
-> a need for: 1. Tell me when something happens
                       2. Tell me when job reaches the state x
-> problem: how long do we need to store transitions? what is when they 
never get fetched?
-> problem: what is when jobs alter states between fetching all states 
and calling waitAny()?
-> do we need a job list as parameter?
-> does it have to be based on transitions?

   * Next conference call: August 4th 2009

Daniel G.

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