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Re: 3D modeling

Hello.

What about FreeCad. It can export severaly file formats including vrml v2.0, it is able to handle meshes,
very easy to use and GPL. Here is a link to the project site: http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/

Maybe it is possible to bring the vrml generating routines of KiCad and FreeCad together. A second
direction, to export sketches or 3d meshes to FreeCad would be very fine, too. This would help to 
crosscheck the the housing and PCB design for your whole project. It would be possible to and easy to find
evtl. problems during the design phase...like in solidworks and altium designer, but much better 

Best regards
Maciek

--- In kicad-users@..., Cirilo Bernardo
<cirilo_bernardo <at> ...> wrote:
>
> I started out writing a tutorial on how to make 3D component models in VRML97 (I hate Wings3D - it is not the
right tool for the job) but thanks to the many limitations of the KiCad VRML engine my initial goal of
creating a DIP package by hand has turned into an exercise on parametric generation of VRML models.  I
still  intend to finish the tutorial but I will have to make a much simpler example file such as an
electrolytic cap.
> 
> Are DIPs still used enough that it is worthwhile generating a set of packages? I have included a file
"halfdip.wrl" for anyone interested in having a look at the model.  It is a PDIP24 and it's named
'halfdip' because I have not yet implemented the 3D transformations necessary to draw the pins on the
other side of the package. Personally I think this package is more beautiful than the existing models
created via Wings3D and once the software is tested it can essentially replace all the DIPn Wings files.
The parametric generation will also allow someone with a better aesthetic sense to regenerate all the
DIPn models to create a more realistic looking package.  I use 'whitedune' to view the file and do final
checks in KiCad by loading the pic_programmer example file and replacing the DIP28 3D model with this
DIP24 model.
> 
> 
> - Cirilo
>

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Re: Re: 3D modeling

I will be evaluating FreeCAD and BRL-CAD for suitability but I expect that to take many months since I also have to learn about how KiCad works and plan the modifications.  In the meantime I think it is worthwhile to have a tutorial on how to create KiCad VRML models with a text editor.  Parametric generation of models is also useful, especially if the code is designed so that it can be extended to create models for VRML or for solid CAD programs.  I am only evaluating free CAD programs since the professional CADs are a huge expense especially for hobbyists, but I expect when all the work is done it should be easy to incorporate any other CAD such as SolidWorks (but if a free one does the job, why spend money).

- Cirilo

From: maciekmusik <maciekmusik-LWAfsSFWpa4@public.gmane.org>
To: kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: [kicad-users] Re: 3D modeling

 

Hello.

What about FreeCad. It can export severaly file formats including vrml v2.0, it is able to handle meshes, very easy to use and GPL. Here is a link to the project site: http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/

Maybe it is possible to bring the vrml generating routines of KiCad and FreeCad together. A second direction, to export sketches or 3d meshes to FreeCad would be very fine, too. This would help to crosscheck the the housing and PCB design for your whole project. It would be possible to and easy to find evtl. problems during the design phase...like in solidworks and altium designer, but much better

Best regards
Maciek

--- In kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org, Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo_bernardo <at> ...> wrote:
>
> I started out writing a tutorial on how to make 3D component models in VRML97 (I hate Wings3D - it is not the right tool for the job) but thanks to the many limitations of the KiCad VRML engine my initial goal of creating a DIP package by hand has turned into an exercise on parametric generation of VRML models.  I still  intend to finish the tutorial but I will have to make a much simpler example file such as an electrolytic cap.
>
> Are DIPs still used enough that it is worthwhile generating a set of packages? I have included a file "halfdip.wrl" for anyone interested in having a look at the model.  It is a PDIP24 and it's named 'halfdip' because I have not yet implemented the 3D transformations necessary to draw the pins on the other side of the package. Personally I think this package is more beautiful than the existing models created via Wings3D and once the software is tested it can essentially replace all the DIPn Wings files. The parametric generation will also allow someone with a better aesthetic sense to regenerate all the DIPn models to create a more realistic looking package.  I use 'whitedune' to view the file and do final checks in KiCad by loading the pic_programmer example file and replac ing the DIP28 3D model with this DIP24 model.
>
>
> - Cirilo
>

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Re: Re: 3D modeling

Cirilo,

I've been a BRL-CAD user for 15+ years now so I just want to highlight that one of the main reasons to 
use it is - or rather was, the ability to interface BRL-CAD to post and pre procerssing softwares like FEM and
vulnerability analysis softwares. We also used it for RADAR simulation of all kind of surfaces and 
of course vehicles. We had loads of FortranIV and later Fortran 95 plugins for BRL-CAD.

So, if you intend to design a stealth car or something, I dop recommend BRL-CAD.

BTW! BRL-CAD is an acronym for "Ballistical Research Laboratory at White Sands, US", so we can
all guess the primary use and it's heritage. The manuals took up 20 pounds of wheight - brrr...

BRL-CAD is mildly put it - quirky to use... But it's still billiant! And the amount of
thoughts and development put into the cad, paid by American tax Dollars, is immense!

I would target HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC before FreeCad. Why? Because Heeks is targeted towards actual
production and CNC machines. You will find it easier to run Heeks, mostly due to the menues etc. BRL-CAD is -
clutter free :)

I think Heeks is based on OpenCad or something, so are freeCad I believe.

Running BRL-CAD is an improved experience with a multicore CPU and 4+ GB memory :)
All modern videocards manage this stuff well. I used a Sun Sparcstation with SunOS 1 and later
Solaris. ( For all you Windows children - SunOS 1 is BSD based and Solaris is System V based ). 
Modern BSD's are MACH based s that is an improvement at least.

Enjoy!

//Dan, M0DFI

On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:11:06 -0800 (PST)
Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo_bernardo@...> wrote:

> I will be evaluating FreeCAD and BRL-CAD for suitability but I expect that to take many months since I also
have to learn about how KiCad works and plan the modifications.  In the meantime I think it is worthwhile
to have a tutorial on how to create KiCad VRML models with a text editor.  Parametric generation of models
is also useful, especially if the code is designed so that it can be extended to create models for VRML or for
solid CAD programs.  I am only evaluating free CAD programs since the professional CADs are a huge
expense especially for hobbyists, but I expect when all the work is done it should be easy to incorporate
any other CAD such as SolidWorks (but if a free one does the job, why spend money).
> 
> - Cirilo
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: maciekmusik <maciekmusik@...>
> To: kicad-users@... 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: [kicad-users] Re: 3D modeling
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Hello.
> 
> What about FreeCad. It can export severaly file formats including vrml v2.0, it is able to handle meshes,
very easy to use and GPL. Here is a link to the project site: http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Maybe it is possible to bring the vrml generating routines of KiCad and FreeCad together. A second
direction, to export sketches or 3d meshes to FreeCad would be very fine, too. This would help to 
crosscheck the the housing and PCB design for your whole project. It would be possible to and easy to find
evtl. problems during the design phase...like in solidworks and altium designer, but much better 
> 
> Best regards
> Maciek
> 
> --- In kicad-users@..., Cirilo Bernardo
<cirilo_bernardo <at> ...> wrote:
> >
> > I started out writing a tutorial on how to make 3D component models in VRML97 (I hate Wings3D - it is not the
right tool for the job) but thanks to the many limitations of the KiCad VRML engine my initial goal of
creating a DIP package by hand has turned into an exercise on parametric generation of VRML models.  I
still  intend to finish the tutorial but I will have to make a much simpler example file such as an
electrolytic cap.
> > 
> > Are DIPs still used enough that it is worthwhile generating a set of packages? I have included a file
"halfdip.wrl" for anyone interested in having a look at the model.  It is a PDIP24 and it's named
'halfdip' because I have not yet implemented the 3D transformations necessary to draw the pins on the
other side of the package. Personally I think this package is more beautiful than the existing models
created via Wings3D and once the software is tested it can essentially replace all the DIPn Wings files.
The parametric generation will also allow someone with a better aesthetic sense to regenerate all the
DIPn models to create a more realistic looking package.  I use 'whitedune' to view the file and do final
checks in KiCad by loading the pic_programmer example file and replacing the DIP28 3D model with this
DIP24 model.
> > 
> > 
> > - Cirilo
> >
> 
> 
>  

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Re: Re: 3D modeling

Thanks for the suggestions.  I have looked at HeeksCAD and Heeks says he is no longer maintaining it so I think my choices are FreeCAD and BRL-CAD.  BRL-CAD is much older of course and the documentation is much better, but I have not made any decisions yet since I haven't really had the time to evaluate the tools. Although the CNC software of HeeksCAD is nice to have, it is not essential since most shops will take a STEP or IGES file and use other software to generate the CNC program.

- Cirilo

From: Dan Andersson <dan-p5a4e3ruvZySE57U5PDhIQ@public.gmane.org>
To: kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Re: 3D modeling

 

Cirilo,

I've been a BRL-CAD user for 15+ years now so I just want to highlight that one of the main reasons to
use it is - or rather was, the ability to interface BRL-CAD to post and pre procerssing softwares like FEM and vulnerability analysis softwares. We also used it for RADAR simulation of all kind of surfaces and
of course vehicles. We had loads of FortranIV and later Fortran 95 plugins for BRL-CAD.

So, if you intend to design a stealth car or something, I dop recommend BRL-CAD.

BTW! BRL-CAD is an acronym for "Ballistical Research Laboratory at White Sands, US", so we can
all guess the primary use and it's heritage. The manuals took up 20 pounds of wheight - brrr...

BRL-CAD is mildly put it - quirky to use... But it's still billiant! And the amount of
thoughts and development put into the cad, paid by American tax Dollars, is immense!

I would target HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC before FreeCad. Why? Because Heeks is targeted towards actual
production and CNC machines. You will find it easier to run Heeks, mostly due to the menues etc. BRL-CAD is - clutter free :)

I think Heeks is based on OpenCad or something, so are freeCad I believe.

Running BRL-CAD is an improved experience with a multicore CPU and 4+ GB memory :)
All modern videocards manage this stuff well. I used a Sun Sparcstation with SunOS 1 and later
Solaris. ( For all you Windows children - SunOS 1 is BSD based and Solaris is System V based ).
Modern BSD's are MACH based s that is an improvement at least.

Enjoy!

//Dan, M0DFI

On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:11:06 -0800 (PST)
Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo_bernardo-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> I will be evaluating FreeCAD and BRL-CAD for suitability but I expect that to take many months since I also have to learn about how KiCad works and plan the modifications.  In the meantime I think it is worthwhile to have a tutorial on how to create KiCad VRML models with a text editor.  Parametric generation of models is also useful, especially if the code is designed so that it can be extended to create models for VRML or for solid CAD programs.  I am only evaluating free CAD programs since the professional CADs are a huge expense especially for hobbyists, but I expect when all the work is done it should be easy to incorporate any other CAD such as SolidWorks (but if a free one does the job, why spend money).
>
> - Cirilo
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: maciekmusik <maciekmusik-LWAfsSFWpa4@public.gmane.org>
> To: kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: [kicad-users] Re: 3D modeling
>
>
>  
>
>
> Hello.
>
> What about FreeCad. It can export severaly file formats including vrml v2.0, it is able to handle meshes, very easy to use and GPL. Here is a link to the project site: http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/
>
> Maybe it is possible to bring the vrml generating routines of KiCad and FreeCad together. A second direction, to export sketches or 3d meshes to FreeCad would be very fine, too. This would help to crosscheck the the housing and PCB design for your whole project. It would be possible to and easy to find evtl. problems during the design phase...like in solidworks and altium designer, but much better
>
> Best regards
> Maciek
>
> --- In kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org, Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo_bernardo <at> ...> wrote:
> >
> > I started out writing a tutorial on how to make 3D component models in VRML97 (I hate Wings3D - it is not the right tool for the job) but thanks to the many limitations of the KiCad VRML engine my initial goal of creating a DIP package by hand has turned into an exercise on parametric generation of VRML models.  I still  intend to finish the tutorial but I will have to make a much simpler example file such as an electrolytic cap.
> >
> > Are DIPs still used enough that it is worthwhile generating a set of packages? I have included a file "halfdip.wrl" for anyone interested in having a look at the model.  It is a PDIP24 and it's named 'halfdip' because I have not yet implemented the 3D transformations necessary to draw the pins on the other side of the package. Personally I think this package is more beautiful than the existing models created via Wings3D and once the software is tested it can essentially replace all the DIPn Wings files. The parametric generation will also allow someone with a better aesthetic sense to regenerate all the DIPn models to create a more realistic looking package.  I use 'whitedune' to view the file and do final checks in KiCad by loading the pic_programmer example file and r eplacing the DIP28 3D model with this DIP24 model.
> >
> >
> > - Cirilo
> >
>
>
>

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Re: 3D modeling

The problem with Kicad's VRML code is it only accepts the mesh data portion of the VRML file. You must first
convert the object into a mesh and then save it as VRML. While this does work (and FreeCAD is pretty good at
optimizing the polygon distribution), there are unherent problems to it. Mesh data is not as usable in CAD
applications as true geometry, and because the VRML file is ASCII, the files are huge compared to the
original file. A quick test with an enclosure header gave a result of filesize growing from 3.7 megabytes
to 8, and with more resolution to 14!

What's more, if you include more intermediate steps for whatever reason, you are bound to run into some
translation problems. The mesh geometries usually doesn't adhere to real world dimensions; if one
programs translates geometric units as mils and other as meters, you will have problems. Also, the
coordinate system may switch from left to right handed, which creates mirrored parts. 

My wishes are the same OpenCASCADE libraries used to create FreeCAD would be used to include STEP/IGES
functionality within KICAD itself, removing the need to convert the files beforehand. While
OpenCASCADE is not under (L)GPL, it has a compatible license. It would allow higher quality 3D parts, keep
the 3D library smaller and the scale in true 1:1 at all times. Also, it would keep stuff in the format used by
the industry.

--- In kicad-users@..., "maciekmusik" <maciekmusik <at> ...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Hello.
> 
> What about FreeCad. It can export severaly file formats including vrml v2.0, it is able to handle meshes,
very easy to use and GPL. Here is a link to the project site: http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Maybe it is possible to bring the vrml generating routines of KiCad and FreeCad together. A second
direction, to export sketches or 3d meshes to FreeCad would be very fine, too. This would help to 
crosscheck the the housing and PCB design for your whole project. It would be possible to and easy to find
evtl. problems during the design phase...like in solidworks and altium designer, but much better 
> 
> Best regards
> Maciek
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In kicad-users@..., Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo_bernardo <at> > wrote:
> >
> > I started out writing a tutorial on how to make 3D component models in VRML97 (I hate Wings3D - it is not the
right tool for the job) but thanks to the many limitations of the KiCad VRML engine my initial goal of
creating a DIP package by hand has turned into an exercise on parametric generation of VRML models.  I
still  intend to finish the tutorial but I will have to make a much simpler example file such as an
electrolytic cap.
> > 
> > Are DIPs still used enough that it is worthwhile generating a set of packages? I have included a file
"halfdip.wrl" for anyone interested in having a look at the model.  It is a PDIP24 and it's named
'halfdip' because I have not yet implemented the 3D transformations necessary to draw the pins on the
other side of the package. Personally I think this package is more beautiful than the existing models
created via Wings3D and once the software is tested it can essentially replace all the DIPn Wings files.
The parametric generation will also allow someone with a better aesthetic sense to regenerate all the
DIPn models to create a more realistic looking package.  I use 'whitedune' to view the file and do final
checks in KiCad by loading the pic_programmer example file and replacing the DIP28 3D model with this
DIP24 model.
> > 
> > 
> > - Cirilo
> >
>

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Re: Re: 3D modeling

Re: [kicad-users] Re: 3D modeling

There is a 3D model and design up and comer popular with the 3D printing crowd:  OpenSCAD. It is a different approach from WYSIWYG using a scripting then compiling process liked much by programmers.

Google and see?

----- Reply message -----
From: "Cirilo Bernardo" <cirilo_bernardo-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 1:06 am
Subject: [kicad-users] Re: 3D modeling
To: "kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org" <kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org>

 

Thanks for the suggestions.  I have looked at HeeksCAD and Heeks says he is no longer maintaining it so I think my choices are FreeCAD and BRL-CAD.  BRL-CAD is much older of course and the documentation is much better, but I have not made any decisions yet since I haven't really had the time to evaluate the tools. Although the CNC software of HeeksCAD is nice to have, it is not essential since most shops will take a STEP or IGES file and use other software to generate the CNC program.

- Cirilo

From: Dan Andersson <dan-p5a4e3ruvZySE57U5PDhIQ@public.gmane.org>
To: kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Re: 3D modeling

 

Cirilo,

I've been a BRL-CAD user for 15+ years now so I just want to highlight that one of the main reasons to
use it is - or rather was, the ability to interface BRL-CAD to post and pre procerssing softwares like FEM and vulnerability analysis softwares. We also used it for RADAR simulation of all kind of surfaces and
of course vehicles. We had loads of FortranIV and later Fortran 95 plugins for BRL-CAD.

So, if you intend to design a stealth car or something, I dop recommend BRL-CAD.

BTW! BRL-CAD is an acronym for "Ballistical Research Laboratory at White Sands, US", so we can
all guess the primary use and it's heritage. The manuals took up 20 pounds of wheight - brrr...

BRL-CAD is mildly put it - quirky to use... But it's still billiant! And the amount of
thoughts and development put into the cad, paid by American tax Dollars, is immense!

I would target HeeksCAD and HeeksCNC before FreeCad. Why? Because Heeks is targeted towards actual
production and CNC machines. You will find it easier to run Heeks, mostly due to the menues etc. BRL-CAD is - clutter free :)

I think Heeks is based on OpenCad or something, so are freeCad I believe.

Running BRL-CAD is an improved experience with a multicore CPU and 4+ GB memory :)
All modern videocards manage this stuff well. I used a Sun Sparcstation with SunOS 1 and later
Solaris. ( For all you Windows children - SunOS 1 is BSD based and Solaris is System V based ).
Modern BSD's are MACH based s that is an improvement at least.

Enjoy!

//Dan, M0DFI

On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:11:06 -0800 (PST)
Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo_bernardo-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> I will be evaluating FreeCAD and BRL-CAD for suitability but I expect that to take many months since I also have to learn about how KiCad works and plan the modifications.  In the meantime I think it is worthwhile to have a tutorial on how to create KiCad VRML models with a text editor.  Parametric generation of models is also useful, especially if the code is designed so that it can be extended to create models for VRML or for solid CAD programs.  I am only evaluating free CAD programs since the professional CADs are a huge expense especially for hobbyists, but I expect when all the work is done it should be easy to incorporate any other CAD such as SolidWorks (but if a free one does the job, why spend money).
>
> - Cirilo
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: maciekmusik <maciekmusik-LWAfsSFWpa4@public.gmane.org>
> To: kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:14 PM
> Subject: [kicad-users] Re: 3D modeling
>
>
>  
>
>
> Hello.
>
> What about FreeCad. It can export severaly file formats including vrml v2.0, it is able to handle meshes, very easy to use and GPL. Here is a link to the project site: http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/
>
> Maybe it is possible to bring the vrml generating routines of KiCad and FreeCad together. A second direction, to export sketches or 3d meshes to FreeCad would be very fine, too. This would help to crosscheck the the housing and PCB design for your whole project. It would be possible to and easy to find evtl. problems during the design phase...like in solidworks and altium designer, but much better
>
> Best regards
> Maciek
>
> --- In kicad-users-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org, Cirilo Bernardo <cirilo_bernardo <at> ...> wrote:
> >
> > I started out writing a tutorial on how to make 3D component models in VRML97 (I hate Wings3D - it is not the right tool for the job) but thanks to the many limitations of the KiCad VRML engine my initial goal of creating a DIP package by hand has turned into an exercise on parametric generation of VRML models.  I still  intend to finish the tutorial but I will have to make a much simpler example file such as an electrolytic cap.
> >
> > Are DIPs still used enough that it is worthwhile generating a set of packages? I have included a file "halfdip.wrl" for anyone interested in having a look at the model.  It is a PDIP24 and it's named 'halfdip' because I have not yet implemented the 3D transformations necessary to draw the pins on the other side of the package. Personally I think this package is more beautiful than the existing models created via Wings3D and once the software is tested it can essentially replace all the DIPn Wings files. The parametric generation will also allow someone with a better aesthetic sense to regenerate all the DIPn models to create a more realistic looking package.  I use 'whitedune' to view the file and do final checks in KiCad by loading the pic_programmer example file and r eplacing the DIP28 3D model with this DIP24 model.
> >
> >
> > - Cirilo
> >
>
>
>

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Re: How to delete module from library?

Hi,

When things messed up in my libraries, I just use a text editor to remove, or fix a module that got a wrong name.
So when I like to add or update one or more modules, I save a backup of the corresponding libraries first just
in case.

I am far from being an expert in Kicad but this helped me a lot from not re-creating a module already done.
Sometimes it seems I forget or miss a step to do while saving a module so an error occurs 'quietly, without a
warning' :)

Kerim

--- In kicad-users@..., "Robi" <rob_27_zg <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Sometimes it works sometimes it does not!
> 
> I have some modules that are listed but when i want to delete them, it says module not found!
> Also lading modules that are listed and sometimes cannot be found (why are they listed then)?!?
> 
> And other problem is when i am creating new footprints(modules) and save them few times in the procedure
(some touch up or correction i.e.), it always saves a new copy, under the same name and that appears in the
list as multiple modules, and deleting them is mission impossible!
> Plus managing modules is very confusing, cannot browse footprints in editor (got to load each one) so
editing or deleting is kinda...mess.
> 
> --- In kicad-users@..., Russ Ferriday <russf <at> > wrote:
> >
> > Select library, then click the trash-can icon, then select which one to delete.
> > --r
> > On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:49 PM, tom_iphi wrote:
> > 
> > > Can somebody give me a quick hint how to delete an obsolete module from a library?
> > > 
> > > Thanks, Tom
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Russ Ferriday -- Software and Systems Architect/Developer
> > CEO Topia Systems Ltd.
> > russf <at>   --  +1 (805) 910 7877  --  www.topia.com
> >
>

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