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cbnathanael | 1 Jun 2010 01:15
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Re: pcbnew Crashes X

Thanks for the response, Karl.

I'm not using the beta release of Lucid, though -- this was the official update they put out this month. KDE
4.4 has been quite stable, too. I haven't had any other issues with my hardware/software.

My laptop is also relatively old (circa 2005); prior versions of KiCad worked on it just fine, using Ubuntu.
The hard drive died, and I replaced it.

There is a bug report on launchpad, too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kicad/+bug/557918?comments=all

This does seem to be an ubuntu 10.04 specific problem. I wasn't sure if anyone here had run into it yet.

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> cbnathanael wrote:
> > I've been using KiCad for a few years, but for whatever reason, didn't check for upgrades ^_^;;   But, I love it!
> > 
> > Anyhow, I just repaired my laptop, and installed Ubuntu 10.04, and am using KDE 4.4.
> > 
> > Now, pcbnew semi-randomly crashes X entirely -- kdm even has to restart. The only error I was able to log was:
> > 
> > pcbnew: Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0.
> > 
> > and /var/logs/syslog only has
> > X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
> > 
> > This occurs on three different versions of pcbnew:
> > *kicad-2010-05-05-BZR2356-stable-UBUNTU_9.10
> > *20090216-final (via Ubuntu repositories)
> > *kicad-full-version-2008-08-25c-final (which is what is on my other system)
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Karl Schmidt | 1 Jun 2010 17:07
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Re: Re: pcbnew Crashes X

cbnathanael wrote:
> Thanks for the response, Karl.
> 
> I'm not using the beta release of Lucid, though -- this was the official update they put out this month. KDE
4.4 has been quite stable, too. I haven't had any other issues with my hardware/software.
> 
> My laptop is also relatively old (circa 2005); prior versions of KiCad worked on it just fine, using
Ubuntu. The hard drive died, and I replaced it.
> 
> There is a bug report on launchpad, too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kicad/+bug/557918?comments=all
> 
> This does seem to be an ubuntu 10.04 specific problem. I wasn't sure if anyone here had run into it yet.
> 

Looks like a bug in one of ubuntu's video drivers..

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cahuy23 | 1 Jun 2010 20:52
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Problemas con relleno de zonas

Buenas.  Estoy teniendo problemas al rellenar zonas.
En una capa tengo definida una zona por sus limites y asociada a una red.  En la misma capa necesito hacer otra
zona rellena que incluya el resto de la capa, sin que se superponga a la zona anteriormente creada.
En versiones anteriores de KiCAD esto lo lograba simplemente haciendo un relleno sin definir los
límites: la zona que invadía toda la capa lo hacía sin pisar las zonas ya creadas y asociadas a otras reds.
Estoy usando la versión 2010-4-21 BZR23xx, y no logro hacerlo de igual manera.  No se si con la nueva
versión el procedimiento es otro o se trata de un bug.
Muchas Gracias.

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cbnathanael | 2 Jun 2010 06:06
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Re: pcbnew Crashes X

It's looking like a video issue.

Though myself and someone else have seemingly narrowed it down specifically to anything with an arc in it. I
can work for a while on a section of the board with no issue, but as soon as I move to something containing an
arc, everything dies. This doesn't happen in eeschema.

I've tried it both natively, as well as with WINE, and even through SSH on another computer where it works
fine. In each case, the results were the same -- manipulating the view while an arc was visible, crashed x-server.

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> > Thanks for the response, Karl.
> > 
> > I'm not using the beta release of Lucid, though -- this was the official update they put out this month. KDE
4.4 has been quite stable, too. I haven't had any other issues with my hardware/software.
> > 
> > My laptop is also relatively old (circa 2005); prior versions of KiCad worked on it just fine, using
Ubuntu. The hard drive died, and I replaced it.
> > 
> > There is a bug report on launchpad, too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kicad/+bug/557918?comments=all
> > 
> > This does seem to be an ubuntu 10.04 specific problem. I wasn't sure if anyone here had run into it yet.
> > 
> 
> Looks like a bug in one of ubuntu's video drivers..
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Anders | 2 Jun 2010 08:52
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Passive components suddenly have pins numbered A, B instead of 1,2

Started a new project and suddely no resistors or caps would connect in PCBNew. Turned out that the netlist had:

 ( /4C05FC73 C2 C7 C
  ( A ? )
  ( B GND )
 )

Efter changing them (there were just a few)

 ( /4C05FC73 C2 C7 C
  ( 1 ? )
  ( 2 GND )
 )

It works, but if I rewrite the net file from EESchema, it reverts back. What has happened? It is probably
something silly I have done, but I cabnnot find out what?

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Bernd Wiebus | 2 Jun 2010 09:48
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Re: Passive components suddenly have pins numbered A, B instead of 1,2

Hello Anders.

> It works, but if I rewrite the net file from EESchema, it reverts back.
> What has happened? It is probably something silly I have done, but I cabnnot
> find out what?

Because the original mishap comes from the Symbols in EESchema. If the Pin in the Symbol are numbered with A,
B, ....(They can actually get numbered 4 Letter Alpanumerical), then EESchema will also create Netlists
with A, B, and so on. So You have to edid the symbol, not the netlist.

I did something silly too, when i created my EN60617 Library, with Diodes
and Transistors first. I named the Pins A and K, or B, C, E.......
Much work to chance it after i noticed my error.......

But i think, at some ICs, naming the Pins and Pads with a memnonical oriented Number would be nice. The
problem is, that there are different Footprints with different numbering for the same symbol (Like
MIC4422 wit 8pin Dil/SO and 5Pin Pentawatt). So it would be nice at CVpcb to have a tool for fiddling Symbol
numbers to pad numbers. At moment, i created two different Symbols for the MIC4422, one with the 8 Pin
numbering, and one with 5 Pin numbering.

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Martin Kratoska | 2 Jun 2010 10:51
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SVN at Sourceforge still in use?

I wonder if the SVN repo at

https://kicad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/kicad/trunk/kicad/

is still in use. The 2518 here seems pretty old...

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Pedro Martin | 2 Jun 2010 11:08
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Re: Problemas con relleno de zonas

Hola:

El relleno de zonas ha ido cambiando ligeramene de versión a versión.
Yo no he probado la que estás ussando. De todas formas, intenta definir 
también la zona que invade toda la capa, a ver si de esta manera te lo 
permite.

Saludos,
Pedro.

> Buenas.  Estoy teniendo problemas al rellenar zonas.
> En una capa tengo definida una zona por sus limites y asociada a una red.  
En la misma capa necesito hacer otra zona rellena que incluya el resto de la 
capa, sin que se superponga a la zona anteriormente creada.
> En versiones anteriores de KiCAD esto lo lograba simplemente haciendo un 
relleno sin definir los límites: la zona que invadía toda la capa lo hacía 
sin pisar las zonas ya creadas y asociadas a otras reds.
> Estoy usando la versión 2010-4-21 BZR23xx, y no logro hacerlo de igual 
manera.  No se si con la nueva versión el procedimiento es otro o se trata de 
un bug.
> Muchas Gracias.
> 
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Pedro Martin | 2 Jun 2010 11:10
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Re: Passive components suddenly have pins numbered A, B instead of 1,2

Hi,

Try to be sure that pins in both component (eeschema) and footprint (pcbnew) 
have the same name.

Pedro.

> Started a new project and suddely no resistors or caps would connect in 
PCBNew. Turned out that the netlist had:
> 
>  ( /4C05FC73 C2 C7 C
>   ( A ? )
>   ( B GND )
>  )
> 
> Efter changing them (there were just a few)
> 
>  ( /4C05FC73 C2 C7 C
>   ( 1 ? )
>   ( 2 GND )
>  )
> 
> It works, but if I rewrite the net file from EESchema, it reverts back. What 
has happened? It is probably something silly I have done, but I cabnnot find 
out what?
> 
>

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Milan Horák | 2 Jun 2010 12:02
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Re: SVN at Sourceforge still in use?

Hallo Martin,

repository moved to bazaar at launchpad.net ( 
https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers ). Also  developers mailing list.

Milan

Dne 2.6.2010 10:51, Martin Kratoska napsal(a):
> I wonder if the SVN repo at
>
> https://kicad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/kicad/trunk/kicad/
>
> is still in use. The 2518 here seems pretty old...
>
> Martin, OK1RR
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