Jan Niklas Hasse | 18 Oct 2009 18:38
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relaytool dead?

I just looked into relaytool, never did before, and found out that
it's exactly what I need for one of my projects. After trying it out
on a 64 bit system I got a linker error. I started a 32 bit machine in
a virtual machine. This time it compiles but I got a segfault when
running my binary.

Well, I know I didn't posted an error message and I should tell you a
little bit more about what I did so that someone could actually help
me. But I wanted to ask first is there actually anyone who can help
me? I mean is there anyone who knows how relaytool works, still
reading the mailing list and who could patch relaytool?

Also has anyone ever successfully used relaytool recently?

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Neil Munro | 4 Sep 2009 02:32
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Getting short name before autopackage is installed.

Hey

      I am working on an application that pulls various packages from the internet and installs them under Linux, since autopackage is dead easy to get applications installed with it was the first package format to be supported, now however I am looking into how to uninstall packages and autopackage is still rather simple, if your an intelligent human being. My program kinda sucks that way since it's neither ;). 

I have a package file, I save the name of this package file to a text file, however I wish to extract the short name from the autopackage archive prior to installation so my program can save the short name in the text file should the need to uninstall arise. How might I achieve this?

Many thanks,
Neil Munro
Pablo Garralda | 25 Aug 2009 15:07
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making update packages.

Hi there!
      I know that AP does not support upgrades per se (i.e. automatic updates), however I have a question about installing packages the update the system:
- How do I package a new version of my app, if I want the old, installed version is already installed in the system with AP? Should I care?
- What if the package I'm updating is a library? Will it break dependencies within AP?


Cheers,
Pablo.


BTW, Thanks to the list for answering my (apparently random) autopackage questions. :)

Jan Niklas Hasse | 19 Aug 2009 17:44
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New website mockup

Hi everyone,

Some months ago I tried to create a new design for the autopackage
website. Although I like the current one very much, I think it's very
hard to find the right site. The categories on the left side don't
make much sense to me and some pages are not accessible via the menu.
Furthermore I thought that a new design would give the autopackage
project a new broom (I translated this one from German, hope you
understand what I want to say). Another reason to create a new design
was that the current one uses HTML 4 Transitional which is outdated
and has several disadvantages (I'm not a good enough web developer to
tell you exactly which, but it's harder to maintain for me).
I'm not that happy with my new mockup and wanted to change many flaws,
but never found time in the last past months. So I thought better show
it, before it gets lost on my computer.

To cut a long story short, there you go: http://watteimdocht.de/autopackage/test
Criticism is appreciated :)

-
Jan

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Justin Karneges | 10 Aug 2009 23:47
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autopackage of qt

Hi guys,

Does anyone know if there is an autopackage of the Qt library available?  
Nokia/Trolltech doesn't seem to make them, and a quick google doesn't reveal 
anything.

Until now I've been statically linking my own build of Qt.  What I'd like to 
do now is create a dynamic build of Qt as its own .package file which I can 
then put within my app's .package.  The primary goal here is to make it 
possible to use the distribution's Qt if it already exists, otherwise my Qt 
build would be installed.  Is this possible?  I seem to remember reading some 
autopackage information that said it was.  Do I also need to write some test 
program that probes for a compatible installed Qt?

Thanks,
-Justin

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Pablo Garralda | 28 Jul 2009 22:33
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Autopackage Vs Zero Install

Hi everybody,
           Reading Autopackage F.A.Q. I've just found a link to "Zero Install" which it seems to have an approach similar to Autopackage. In its site, there is a table comparing several options, including Zero install and Autopackage among others. Of course, According to its page, Zero Install rocks. ;)

           Does anybody know the advantages of Autopackage over Zero Install? Better portability, perhaps? Or its just a different approach?

Thanks in advance.
Pablo.

Pablo Garralda | 21 Jul 2009 15:56
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Using unionfs to handle clashes between AP and the native package manager (e.g. .RPM .deb)

Hi all,
    I the F.A.Q. section "I bet autopackage sucks because ..." in the third paragraph says:

"[...] In future it's possible that autopackage will register with the package manager databases to prevent this, or alternatively *a distribution could provide support for additional prefixes (eg via unionfs) one of which could be used by autopackage for its own files*. [...]"

- Can anybody elaborate about using unionfs for "support[ing] additional prefixes"?

- What kind of problems this solution will attack?

- Is there any additional burden for the App developer to use this? (e.g. Should the binary be relocatable?)

- How can I configure autopackage installer to use such a prefix by default?

Thanks in advance!
Pablo.

Isak Savo | 4 Jul 2009 14:05
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Trac spam etc.

I've made some small modifications to the trac site due to latest spam
waves in the ticket comments. Now all accounts need to have their
email verified before being able to login. I doubt this will make any
significant improvement, but at least it's another step the spammers
need to take before posting spam. Also, I did notice that some spam
accounts in the db didn't have a valid email set.

This may mean that all you legit users get a mail about confirming
your email. Sorry about the inconvenience.

Ultimately, it would be nice if Trac got some decent anti spam
features but they are really not fast in that aspect.

* The most immediate feature would be the possibility to delete
comments ( http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/454  - ticket been around
since 0.7)
* Another feature would be mass-delete comments from a specific user
* Blocking of posts including external urls (+ some sort of whitelist
of valid urls)
* etc.

Unfortunately, a lot (all?) of the spam in our trac seems to come from
real humans which makes conventional techniques less useful. Not sure
what to do.

If anyone has experience with (good) anti-spam measures in trac,
please let us know (reply to this mail)

-Isak

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Jan Niklas Hasse | 13 Jun 2009 23:55
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New buildlist program for APBuild (experimental)

Hi everyone,

I've written a new buildlist program for APBuild. Furthermore I've
added that the apsymbols.h file is created just before compilation.
This allows you to change the minimum required glibc version on the
fly using the new APBUILD_MINIMUM_GLIBC environment variable.

Changelog: http://trac.autopackage.org/changeset/2566
New buildlist.vala:
http://trac.autopackage.org/browser/apbuild/trunk/buildlist.vala

The new program is written in Vala. IMHO a very nice programming
language which I want to use more often in Autopackage. The advantage
is that it has no other dependency than glib and that it's far more
easier than Bash or C. It's translated to C so we can use apgcc for
compilation. Have a look: http://live.gnome.org/Vala
You can get autopackages here: http://watteimdocht.de/autopackage/vala

The new APBuild surely needs more testing. Please help me with that,
you can get a beta build here:
http://watteimdocht.de/autopackage/Autopackage%20Development%20Environment%201.4.2.package

I would like to seperate APBuild more from Autopackage. For example it
should have an own autopackage. I had some discussion (Can you "have a
discussion" in English?) with people on IRC who are using APBuild but
not Autopackage. I also think that the Zeroinstall, Klik or Listaller
developers could use a tool like apbuild, too, couldn't they?

So long,
Jan Niklas

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Gustavo Serra | 10 Jun 2009 22:34
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Problem using apgcc in with Ubuntu 9.04

Hi.

First of all, sorry if this subject has already been dealt with, I
haven't found any information. Using APBUILD_DEBUG=1 I realized that
-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE is used to compile my sources. However, this flag
seem to disable the options -Wall and -Werror (compiling with gcc
instead of apgcc, I get the new gcc 4.3 warnings about unused return
values):

# /usr/bin/gcc -I/usr/local/include/apbuild -include
/usr/local/include/apbuild/apsymbols.h -DAPBUILD_VERSION="2.0.9"
-fno-stack-protector -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE pdvio.c -pipe -pthread -Wall
-Werror -O2 -fPIC -I../include -march=i486 -c -o .obj/release/pdvio.o

If I run the line above manually and remove the -U flag, I get all the warnings.
I can edit apgcc and remove this flag, but I am unaware of the consequences.

Also, I had to edit apsymbols.h and replace  <at> GLIBC_2.2.5 for
 <at> GLIBC_2.3. Otherwise I would get these errors:

$ make
apgcc -pipe -pthread -Wall -Werror   -O2 -fPIC  -I../include
-march=i486 -c -o .obj/release/pdvio.o pdvio.c
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:26: Error: multiple versions
[`sys_errlist <at> GLIBC_2.3'|`sys_errlist <at> GLIBC_2.2.5'] for symbol
`sys_errlist'
{standard input}:27: Error: multiple versions
[`_sys_errlist <at> GLIBC_2.2.5'|`_sys_errlist <at> GLIBC_2.3'] for symbol
`_sys_errlist'
{standard input}:28: Error: multiple versions
[`sys_nerr <at> GLIBC_2.3'|`sys_nerr <at> GLIBC_2.2.5'] for symbol `sys_nerr'
{standard input}:29: Error: multiple versions
[`_sys_nerr <at> GLIBC_2.2.5'|`_sys_nerr <at> GLIBC_2.3'] for symbol `_sys_nerr'

What is the correct manner to deal with these problems?
Thanks any advice.

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