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Ciaran | 7 Apr 20:53

WombatShare 3rd party Sharing possibility...

Hi,
I'm currently implementing (or trying to at least) a mechanism to allow 
sharing between multiple media players.  I was wondering if you thought 
Zinf might be a suitable candidate for this.  WombatShare is currently 
closed source (although this is not neccessarily true forever, just for 
now).   How difficult would integrating it into the Music Library whilst 
maintaining as a closed 3rd party unit be?  Does Zinf have any support 
for plugins etc ?
If you don't think its suitable then thats cool, I just want to know
Cheers

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Kristian Kvilekval | 7 Apr 21:00
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Re: WombatShare 3rd party Sharing possibility...

Zinf supports plugins and is probably suitable considering its 
music library functions.  However, why is your tool closed
source?  I know I could not distribute your closed-source plugin
(nor could most of our packagers debian, mandrake, etc).

On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 11:53, Ciaran wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm currently implementing (or trying to at least) a mechanism to allow 
> sharing between multiple media players.  I was wondering if you thought 
> Zinf might be a suitable candidate for this.  WombatShare is currently 
> closed source (although this is not neccessarily true forever, just for 
> now).   How difficult would integrating it into the Music Library whilst 
> maintaining as a closed 3rd party unit be?  Does Zinf have any support 
> for plugins etc ?
> If you don't think its suitable then thats cool, I just want to know
> Cheers
> 
> More Info @ http:\\www.wombatinvasion.com\
> 
> 
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Ciaran | 7 Apr 21:08

Re: WombatShare 3rd party Sharing possibility...

No real reason at the minute, I don't want to open the source up yet 
[it looks a mess right now]  The reason why you can't distribute a 
closed-source plugin, is that because it has to be 
compile-from-source-able ?

Is there any SDK/Documentation on implementing plugins for Zinf?
Thanks,
- Ciaran

Kristian Kvilekval wrote:

>Zinf supports plugins and is probably suitable considering its 
>music library functions.  However, why is your tool closed
>source?  I know I could not distribute your closed-source plugin
>(nor could most of our packagers debian, mandrake, etc).
>
>
>On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 11:53, Ciaran wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>I'm currently implementing (or trying to at least) a mechanism to allow 
>>sharing between multiple media players.  I was wondering if you thought 
>>Zinf might be a suitable candidate for this.  WombatShare is currently 
>>closed source (although this is not neccessarily true forever, just for 
>>now).   How difficult would integrating it into the Music Library whilst 
>>maintaining as a closed 3rd party unit be?  Does Zinf have any support 
>>for plugins etc ?
>>If you don't think its suitable then thats cool, I just want to know
>>Cheers
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Kristian Kvilekval | 7 Apr 21:28
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Re: WombatShare 3rd party Sharing possibility...

On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 12:08, Ciaran wrote:
> No real reason at the minute, I don't want to open the source up yet 
> [it looks a mess right now]  

Fixing up messes and improving quality is what 
open-source is all about. 

> The reason why you can't distribute a 
> closed-source plugin, is that because it has to be 
> compile-from-source-able ?

Exactly plus the above.

> Is there any SDK/Documentation on implementing plugins for Zinf?
> Thanks,
> - Ciaran

Documentation is really only in the source.  Best
documentation is an example, no?  You are probably interested
in mdb (music database), ui/musicbrowser (gtk2.X music browser), 
ui/musicbrowsermm (gtkmm browser), ui/download (defunct emusic
downloader).

> 
> Kristian Kvilekval wrote:
> 
> >Zinf supports plugins and is probably suitable considering its 
> >music library functions.  However, why is your tool closed
> >source?  I know I could not distribute your closed-source plugin
> >(nor could most of our packagers debian, mandrake, etc).
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Ciaran | 7 Apr 21:31

Re: WombatShare 3rd party Sharing possibility...


Kristian Kvilekval wrote:

>On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 12:08, Ciaran wrote:
>  
>
>>No real reason at the minute, I don't want to open the source up yet 
>>[it looks a mess right now]  
>>    
>>
>
>Fixing up messes and improving quality is what 
>open-source is all about. 
>
>  
>
True, but like I said I may open in the future, i'd also be worried 
about other people releasing different versions of it causing confusion 
and all sorts :(

>>The reason why you can't distribute a 
>>closed-source plugin, is that because it has to be 
>>compile-from-source-able ?
>>    
>>
>
>Exactly plus the above.
>
>  
>
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Kristian Kvilekval | 19 Apr 19:07
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Re: ALSA question

Thanks for the heads up.. The alsa output plugin is showing
its age.  It probably needs to be reworked since alsa 1.0
is has been out for quite.  

On Sun, 2004-04-18 at 23:30, Martin Edlman wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 	I haven't found an answer to my question on the web, so I'm asking
> here. I want to use ALSA output plugin, but as it is possible to select hw
> device only, it blocks the device and no other application can access it.
> 
> 	I have configured ALSA (in .alsarc) to make software mixing device
> and other applications which support it, use this device so multiple
> inputs are mixed together. But I'm not able to make Zinf to use this
> device.
> 
> 	If there is not an existing solution maybe developers should make 
> it possible to select if the user wants to use default (e.g.mixing device) 
> or specify other hw device.
> 
> Regards,
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Robert Davis | 23 Apr 23:51

Zinf Errors

Submitted #1 one a while back and didn't hear anything.  #1 and #2 seem
to be related since they can be prevented the same way.

1) Load a stream.  Right click on the display area but don't select
anything.  Double click on the song title area for the edit info and it
crashes around 90% of the time. To prevent select the window to close
the popup menu and rollover a button.

2) Start Zinf and hit O for Options and Cancel.  Do this several times
and usually crashes Zinf with 'Killed'.  To prevent rollover a button
before hitting 'O' for the Options dialog

3) LastDir preference doesn't seem to be working correctly.  Had it
reset to "/"
on me once and had to go into preferences and change it.

4) WindowPos preference not used?  Every startup of zinf is top left
corner.

Gentoo (tried with very mild compile flags)
Gnome 2.6 w/ Metacity
GTK+-2.4.0

Robert Davis

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