Alberto de Campo | 1 Apr 10:50 2004
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[commit] : new sc doc format

Hi all,

re the XML/doc issue, I've found the best solution
for the sc doc file format, and just committed it:

All doc files are changed now from .rtf to .rtfm.

see e.g.
http://www.rtfm.com/
http://rtfm.bsdzine.org/
http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/r/RTFM.html

more later, got urgent concert
preparations to do,
best,
adc

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Julian Rohrhuber | 1 Apr 10:57 2004
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Re: [commit] : new sc doc format

what? no way!!!!!
I object, this is not a good idea at all.
Please revert your commit (your concert preparations notwithstanding).

If anything, the proper format should be rtfs:
http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?RTFS

>Hi all,
>
>re the XML/doc issue, I've found the best solution
>for the sc doc file format, and just committed it:
>
>All doc files are changed now from .rtf to .rtfm.
>
>see e.g.
>http://www.rtfm.com/
>http://rtfm.bsdzine.org/
>http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/r/RTFM.html
>
>more later, got urgent concert
>preparations to do,
>best,
>adc
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Ronald J. Kuivila | 1 Apr 12:21 2004

Re: [commit] : new sc doc format

Hi Alberto and Julian,

How about a compromise?
Server: rfb
Plugins: rtfs
Lang: rtfm

Of course, individual libraries can use whichever format the author
deems most appropriate...

RJK

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Julian Rohrhuber wrote:

> what? no way!!!!!
> I object, this is not a good idea at all.
> Please revert your commit (your concert preparations notwithstanding).
>
> If anything, the proper format should be rtfs:
> http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?RTFS
>
>
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >re the XML/doc issue, I've found the best solution
> >for the sc doc file format, and just committed it:
> >
> >All doc files are changed now from .rtf to .rtfm.
> >
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ccos | 1 Apr 13:51 2004
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[OT] Virtual Machines

hi everyone,

wondering if any luminaries around here would have good tips on
good books about VM implementation.

thanks,
_c
Jan T. | 1 Apr 14:06 2004
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Re: [commit] : new sc doc format

oh, yeah
and for the help files .html and the examples .doc ;-? to make the 
confusion complete ...

On Apr 1, 2004, at 12:21 PM, Ronald J. Kuivila wrote:

> Hi Alberto and Julian,
>
> How about a compromise?
> Server: rfb
> Plugins: rtfs
> Lang: rtfm
>
> Of course, individual libraries can use whichever format the author
> deems most appropriate...
>
> RJK
>
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Julian Rohrhuber wrote:
>
>> what? no way!!!!!
>> I object, this is not a good idea at all.
>> Please revert your commit (your concert preparations notwithstanding).
>>
>> If anything, the proper format should be rtfs:
>> http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?RTFS
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
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Scott Wilson | 1 Apr 14:42 2004

Re: [commit] : new sc doc format

This is without question the most significant addition to SC in recent 
memory.

Happy April,

S.

On Apr 1, 2004, at 9:50 AM, Alberto de Campo wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> re the XML/doc issue, I've found the best solution
> for the sc doc file format, and just committed it:
>
> All doc files are changed now from .rtf to .rtfm.
>
> see e.g.
> http://www.rtfm.com/
> http://rtfm.bsdzine.org/
> http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/r/RTFM.html
>
> more later, got urgent concert
> preparations to do,
> best,
> adc
>
> -- 
> --
> Alberto de Campo
> ACADEMY OF MEDIA ARTS
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Michael Gogins | 2 Apr 05:09 2004
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Re: [OT] Virtual Machines

Some open source virtual machines:

Lua, tiny and all in C, efficient
Python, very powerful but big
Ocaml interpreted version - don't know much about it, obviously powerful and
probably efficient
Parrot, new VM for Perl, supposed to be efficient

There's a book just out by the author of Lua.

============================================
Michael Gogins
gogins at pipeline period com
Irreducible Productions
CsoundVST, an extended version of Csound for programming music and sound
Available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/csound/
============================================

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ccos" <ccos@...>
To: "SuperCollider developers list" <sc-dev@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 6:51 AM
Subject: [sc-dev] [OT] Virtual Machines

> hi everyone,
>
> wondering if any luminaries around here would have good tips on
> good books about VM implementation.
>
> thanks,
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ccos | 2 Apr 07:52 2004
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Re: [OT] Virtual Machines

thanks michael,

yeah i've heard about the lua book, but i think that's just about
programming in lua, or am i wrong?. i'm wondering if anyone knows
of any good books which deal specifically with implementing VMs, as 
opposed
to more general compiler books which touch on VMs.

thanks,
c

On 02/04/2004, at 1:09 PM, Michael Gogins wrote:

> Some open source virtual machines:
>
> Lua, tiny and all in C, efficient
> Python, very powerful but big
> Ocaml interpreted version - don't know much about it, obviously 
> powerful and
> probably efficient
> Parrot, new VM for Perl, supposed to be efficient
>
> There's a book just out by the author of Lua.
>
> ============================================
> Michael Gogins
> gogins at pipeline period com
> Irreducible Productions
> CsoundVST, an extended version of Csound for programming music and 
> sound
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Ross Bencina | 2 Apr 08:07 2004
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Re: [OT] Virtual Machines

> i'm wondering if anyone knows
> of any good books which deal specifically with implementing VMs, as
> opposed
> to more general compiler books which touch on VMs.

this one came up on slashdot a while ago, never read it myself though:
http://books.slashdot.org/books/02/06/25/1223234.shtml?tid=156

seems like google "implementing virtual machines book" brings up quite a
few.

R.

p.s. i'd like my dragon book back :]
James McCartney | 2 Apr 08:14 2004
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Re: [OT] Virtual Machines


A Little Smalltalk by Tim Budd is somewhat useful, but the 
implementation ideas there are a little dated. I think reading source 
code is better than books. Of course before you do this you should 
understand the programming language concepts above the implementation 
level such as scoping, closures, coroutines, continuations, etc.
I read the above book, the sources of GNU smalltalk, and the class 
libraries of SmalltalkAgents and Squeak when I wrote SuperCollider.
The garbage collector ideas came from papers by Paul Wilson. The 
constant time message dispatch ideas came from papers by Urs Holze et 
al, IIRC.

Nowadays I would recommend reading the source code to Lua, Io, 
Javascript, SC.
SC is a pretty decent language compared to other scripting languages. 
For example it does closures right instead of slightly botched as in 
Lua and Python.

On Apr 1, 2004, at 3:51 AM, ccos wrote:

> hi everyone,
>
> wondering if any luminaries around here would have good tips on
> good books about VM implementation.
>
> thanks,
> _c
>
> _______________________________________________
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