Re: Invisible rosegarden

sdsm933 <adam933@...> writes:

> 
> D. Michael McIntyre <michael.mcintyre@...> writes:
> 
> > 
> > On Monday, November 21, 2011, sdsm933 wrote:
> > 
> > > I discovered that if you always "unmaximize" Rosegarden before you quit,
> > > the Rosegarden.conf will reflect your config changes, and also the gui
> > > will be visible the next time you start.
> > 
> 
> > I just don't have time to do anything like that myself.  Work, sleep, 
work...  
> > Sometimes I eat, but only sometimes.
> > 
> > And I'm still overweight.  Sigh.
> 
> This is a tiny workaround for such a wonderful piece of free software.
> I'm certainly happy with Rosegarden as it is.
> 

That workaround does not work for me. And I only have the problem after a 
restart of the OS Ubuntu 10.10 It seems to be a problem with the config file and 
only on a reboot. Apparently something is not getting set in the config that is 
lost on reboot but maintained even upon multiple start and exit of the 
application. Only it doesn't open on the same monitor/workspace (dual monitors) 
which further indicates a config writing/reading problem. 

Re: Invisible rosegarden

On Sunday, February 05, 2012, Tim Rue wrote:

> That workaround does not work for me. And I only have the problem after a
> restart of the OS Ubuntu 10.10...

I still can't find any reason why the stock, off-the-shelf code I used should 
misbehave in this fashion.  I have no doubt that the problems you guys have 
experienced are real, but I really don't know what to do to work around it.

What I've decided to do is wait and see what happens with the new Ubuntu LTS 
due out early this year.  Rosegarden has no official supported version of an 
official supported distro, but Ubuntu LTS is pretty much the de facto, 
unofficial standard.  If it works with Ubuntu LTS, that's good enough for me, 
and if it doesn't, something is grievously wrong.  We'll see how it comes out, 
and go from there.
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Re: Invisible rosegarden

On 02/05/2012 05:30 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Sunday, February 05, 2012, Tim Rue wrote:
>
>> That workaround does not work for me. And I only have the problem after a
>> restart of the OS Ubuntu 10.10...
>
> I still can't find any reason why the stock, off-the-shelf code I used should
> misbehave in this fashion.  I have no doubt that the problems you guys have
> experienced are real, but I really don't know what to do to work around it.
>
> What I've decided to do is wait and see what happens with the new Ubuntu LTS
> due out early this year.  Rosegarden has no official supported version of an
> official supported distro, but Ubuntu LTS is pretty much the de facto,
> unofficial standard.  If it works with Ubuntu LTS, that's good enough for me,
> and if it doesn't, something is grievously wrong.  We'll see how it comes out,
> and go from there.

And I've not had this problem with RG 10 or 11 on Debian Sid, either. 
Ubuntu's been getting kinda weird the last version or so - especially 
their Unity interface isn't very cooperative sometimes with non-Ubuntu 
apps - so it might be Ubuntu just being weird.

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Pitch-bend ruler broken?

This is on version 11.11.42
The pitch bend ruler in matrix view seems heavily broken. Placing a 
point at position in time it gets placed in randomly different places, 
deleting points is not awlays possible and doing it erratically deletes 
notes, as well as screwing up the undo sistem (i.e. you delete pitch 
bend points, it deletes notes and you cannot undo it, so you have lost 
those notes).

Not thet the pitch bend ruler has ever been the most usable tool. But at 
least it used to work in a strange but predictable manner.

Any hint?

Lorenzo.

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Re: Pitch-bend ruler broken?

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Lorenzo Sutton
<lorenzofsutton@...> wrote:

> This is on version 11.11.42
> The pitch bend ruler in matrix view seems heavily broken. Placing a
> point at position in time it gets placed in randomly different places,
> deleting points is not awlays possible and doing it erratically deletes
> notes, as well as screwing up the undo sistem (i.e. you delete pitch
> bend points, it deletes notes and you cannot undo it, so you have lost
> those notes).
>
> Not thet the pitch bend ruler has ever been the most usable tool. But at
> least it used to work in a strange but predictable manner.
>
> Any hint?

I've had the same experience with the pitch bend ruler also in recent
versions. It's not usable like this.

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Re: Pitch-bend ruler broken?

On Tuesday, February 07, 2012, Brett McCoy wrote:

> > The pitch bend ruler in matrix view seems heavily broken. Placing a
> > point at position in time it gets placed in randomly different places,
> > deleting points is not awlays possible and doing it erratically deletes
> > notes, as well as screwing up the undo sistem (i.e. you delete pitch
> > bend points, it deletes notes and you cannot undo it, so you have lost
> > those notes).

> I've had the same experience with the pitch bend ruler also in recent
> versions. It's not usable like this.

This is the first I've heard of catastrophic problems with the pitch bend 
ruler.  The new rulers since 10.02 or so have remained somewhat buggy and 
unfinished, but at least barely usable.  I tried to improve them a bit, and 
didn't really succeed.  Any additional gains here require the hand of a 
sharper mind than mine; somebody like Ted Felix, say.

In any case, I've had a look at the carnage myself.  The biggest problem I 
note is that after you draw the first point with the pencil, the cursor 
changes into a hand, and remains that way.  This makes it considerably tricky 
to put the next point where you want it.

I didn't reproduce any problems with failing to place a point somewhere 
reasonable (ie. somewhere under the big hunk of real estate covered by the 
hand cursor), with notes getting deleted, or with anything getting stuck 
permanently in a state where undo would lead to permanent loss of data.

With two people reporting similar problems, I'm inclined to believe the 
problems really exist, but I was not able to reproduce any of them.  There's 

Re: Pitch-bend ruler broken?

On 07/02/12 20:04, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 07, 2012, Brett McCoy wrote:
>
>>> The pitch bend ruler in matrix view seems heavily broken. Placing a
>>> point at position in time it gets placed in randomly different places,
>>> deleting points is not awlays possible and doing it erratically deletes
>>> notes, as well as screwing up the undo sistem (i.e. you delete pitch
>>> bend points, it deletes notes and you cannot undo it, so you have lost
>>> those notes).
>> I've had the same experience with the pitch bend ruler also in recent
>> versions. It's not usable like this.
> This is the first I've heard of catastrophic problems with the pitch bend
> ruler.  The new rulers since 10.02 or so have remained somewhat buggy and
> unfinished, but at least barely usable.  I tried to improve them a bit, and
> didn't really succeed.  Any additional gains here require the hand of a
> sharper mind than mine; somebody like Ted Felix, say.
Well I don't know if it would be unpolite to mention another software 
which IMHO opinion does it quite right with the pitch bend and 
controller rulers stuff.
>
> In any case, I've had a look at the carnage myself.  The biggest problem I
> note is that after you draw the first point with the pencil, the cursor
> changes into a hand, and remains that way.  This makes it considerably tricky
> to put the next point where you want it.
Yes. and also it is not movable... I guess one would expect to be able 
to click. then drag but you need to use the selection tool to do it.
>
> I didn't reproduce any problems with failing to place a point somewhere
> reasonable (ie. somewhere under the big hunk of real estate covered by the
> hand cursor), with notes getting deleted, or with anything getting stuck

Re: Pitch-bend ruler broken?

On Wednesday, February 08, 2012, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

> I made a quick video hope it helps (sorry no audio):
> http://gnufunk.org/~lorenzosu/temp/rosegarden_pitch_bend_test.ogv

I don't have time to really study the whole train wreck, but I took a copy of 
the video to review later.  That was extremely helpful, and a very good idea!

It looks like the rulers are pretty much hopelessly broken if you ever zoom.

I know the ruler selections are completely awful, and it's a miracle if you 
manage to use one to accomplish something.  I invested more time than you can 
imagine trying to fix that, and I didn't achieve much.

That's just kind of how it goes around here.  If that's ever going to get 
fixed, somebody with a better set of skills than I possess will have to step 
in and save the day.  I'm a truck driver with a liberal arts degree in foreign 
languages, and nothing much for math skills.  I used to feel like some kind of 
failure for not being able to be some super genius mad programmer, but I'm 
more realistic, and more comfortable in my own skin now.  I'm the most amazing 
truck driver you're ever going to meet, but if you need a strong programmer 
with well-developed skills, calling me is a waste of time.  I might as well 
ask the average Rosegarden user to pick up and deliver a load of gasoline.
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Re: live notation view while playing midi-keyboard

On Tuesday, February 14, 2012, Florian König wrote:

> Is there a possibility to watch the notation-editors view directly while
> playing and recording ?

No.  When you record MIDI, the segment containing the recorded data gets 
created as you go.  Until you end the recording, the segment doesn't really 
exist in the normal sense, so you can't open or view it.

Viewing notation for an emerging MIDI segment on the fly would be difficult to 
achieve.  I have no interest in attempting this, personally.
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