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Simon Austin | 8 Oct 01:34

Re: [mb-users] MusicBrainz-users Digest, Vol 62, Issue 5

musicbrainz-users-request <at> lists.musicbrainz.org wrote:
> I'm entering a recording of a live broadcast from the Metropolitan Opera
> House...
>
> http://musicbrainz.org/release/1fbfe882-4e0d-460f-ae50-3815c60a1ccc.html
>
> ...and the are a number of tracks listed as "Broadcast Commentary" which
> contain the name of the announcer.  I'm stumped as to how I should enter
> this into MB.  I could use a "performed" or "other vocal" A/R, but
> neither of these seems quite right.  Converting the album to VA and
> having the track artists switch between Giuseppe Verdi and the announcer
> seems like an even worse solution though.  I'm open to suggestions.
>   
Releases can remain under a particular artist whilst having multiple
track artists. eg:
<http://musicbrainz.org/release/b1f8f828-be84-43d4-9baf-3ecd8feca59d.html>
a Cure album with four tracks by Cult Hero.

(music players may not honour this distinction though)

- Si: chiark

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jdc0730 | 7 Oct 22:56

[mb-users] Question on Ring Road Records


After submitting the following edit,
http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9477840, I came across the
following on the official home page while trying to do some further
clean-up:

"Ring Road Records History
                 Kyle Reidy, lead singer of Mar, originally started the Ring
Road Records label in 2005 as an outlet for his music. Other bands such as
Benjamin Del Shreve, Jonathan Taylor Rose, Pyramid, Gingerbread Patriots and
the Doldrums were all part of the “informal” label.
             In 2007, Kyle teamed up with Fayetteville attorney Mark
Velasquez, an avid music lover and Mar fan, to form Ring Road Records as a
registered Limited Liability Company. While Mar is the only band signed with
the reorganized Ring Road Records label, some from the original group, and
many other talented artists, will hopefully be joining Mar on the label
soon."

It would appear that an informal label "Ring Road Records" existed from
2005-2007, when "Ring Road Records, LLC" was formed.  

Should these be two distinct labels?  

Please note I don't have any additional information other than what is on
the website, I just stumbled across this.

Jeff (jdc0730)
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David Hampton | 7 Oct 04:52

[mb-users] Broadcast Commentary

I'm entering a recording of a live broadcast from the Metropolitan Opera
House...

http://musicbrainz.org/release/1fbfe882-4e0d-460f-ae50-3815c60a1ccc.html

...and the are a number of tracks listed as "Broadcast Commentary" which
contain the name of the announcer.  I'm stumped as to how I should enter
this into MB.  I could use a "performed" or "other vocal" A/R, but
neither of these seems quite right.  Converting the album to VA and
having the track artists switch between Giuseppe Verdi and the announcer
seems like an even worse solution though.  I'm open to suggestions.

David

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jmillikin | 4 Oct 08:41

[mb-users] Complex translation/transliteration case: Chinese, Japanese, and English oh my


Original track: http://musicbrainz.org/show/track/?trackid=8160895
Translated track: http://musicbrainz.org/show/track/?trackid=8226274
Edit: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9452703

The original track is on a Japanese release. The title has two parts -- the
first is 「ティアオイエツォン」, pronounced "Tiaoietson", and is a transliteration of
the Chinese text 凋葉棕 (meaning "withered leaf") into Japanese kana. The
Chinese text is pronounced as "Diāo Yè Zōng". The second part of the
original title is English "(withered leaf)" -- the direct translation of the
Chinese text.

For the translation of the full release into English, I chose to simply drop
the Chinese portion and promote the parenthesized English to the full title.
I think this follows the artist's original intent. Another editor has
suggested that the Chinese be maintained in the track title, by
re-transliterating it from Chinese -> Latin (and skipping the intermediate
Japanese). This would result in the track title "Diao ye zong (withered
leaf)"[1].

I asked what the best solution was on IRC, and the general response was
"WTF???". Hopefully there will be some experienced MBers on mb-users that
can help sort this thing out.

[1] Or something similar, depending on how fancy to get with the diacritics.
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Paul Taylor | 3 Oct 16:02

[mb-users] MB Site hanging on one attempt , and then working immediately on a retry

Sometimes I click onto details of a release or label in Musicbrainz and 
it just hangs, I try again and it works immediately,Ive also had this 
problem submitting edits. Done anyone else get this problem ?

I also have a consistent problem trying to look at track edits , 
whatever track I look at it hangs, e.g  I go to this page 
http://musicbrainz.org/track/cf0556df-9fa0-4165-a0b1-df1d9d455b82.html 
and click on 'View all track edits' it just hangs, again is this just me 
or not

thanks Paul

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Iain Ramsey | 30 Sep 23:07

[mb-users] CodeOfConduct

BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } I know there are discussions elsewhere regarding ways of rating users..... but this is a great example of where, once identified you could flag this guy.

Instead of deleting the account (and spawning new aliases) we could at least have a "Low Data Quality" flag for the user.

No Autoedits of any kind would be allowed (would stop all of these random collaberations that have been added by this guy being accepted without a vote). Also any adds to the database would be immediatley tagged low-quality data.

At least then other MB users would be able to be cautions when using the flagged data.

Cheers,

Ramzee

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Chad Wilson | 30 Sep 03:21

[mb-users] CodeOfConduct

I know we all have our skirmishes with imperfect behaviour, but what is 
the appropriate community response to editors like 
http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9420613 ?

Ideas?

Chad / voice

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Simon Austin | 29 Sep 02:12

Re: [mb-users] MusicBrainz-users Digest, Vol 61, Issue 17


>
>
> From: "teleGUISE" <teleguise <at> excite.com>
>> you can't deselect a radio
>> button without selecting another - unlike the drop-downs. So there needs
>> to be a "nothing" option.
>>     
> Actually you can 'deselect' them. Just click the "Clear filer >>" button. 
> And like noted the "Voter:" shouldn't say "Any" because it's not "Any" it's "You" ;)
>   
What's happening there is that the "Clear Filter" button resets the
selection back to the "Any" option, but the buttons are hidden from
sight. I think it's a little confusing because it does act as "any
voter" unless you've selected a vote, in which case it only searches for
your votes. At a guess, that might be because a search for all edits
where anyone voted yes sounds like the sort of query that kills the
database...

- Si (chiark)

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Simon Austin | 27 Sep 15:10

Re: [mb-users] Advanced edit/Search edit list - purpose of, "Voter: Any"

musicbrainz-users-request <at> lists.musicbrainz.org wrote:
> From: "teleGUISE" <teleguise <at> excite.com>
>
> I never quite understood the purpose of  "Voter: Any" shouldn't it just say "You" or your mb user name? That
seems to be the only way
> to use that filter. Hitting "Clear Filter" serves the same purpose.
>   
I'm not the programmer, but my guess would be that is the purpose. That
bit of the search form uses radio buttons and you can't deselect a radio
button without selecting another - unlike the drop-downs. So there needs
to be a "nothing" option.
> It would be nice to be able to use it As Stated, Any(body). For example to look at Votes cast for a particular
Artist by (Any) All People, or use it to look at Votes cast by (Any) All Others to a particular Editor.
>

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teleGUISE | 27 Sep 02:57

[mb-users] Advanced edit/Search edit list - purpose of "Voter: Any"

I never quite understood the purpose of "Voter: Any" shouldn't it just say "You" or your mb user name? That seems to be the only way
to use that filter. Hitting "Clear Filter" serves the same purpose.

It would be nice to be able to use it As Stated, Any(body). For example to look at Votes cast for a particular Artist by (Any) All People, or use it to look at Votes cast by (Any) All Others to a particular Editor.

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Simon Austin | 27 Sep 02:49

Re: [mb-users] MusicBrainz-users Digest, Vol 61, Issue 15

musicbrainz-users-request <at> lists.musicbrainz.org wrote:
> But you're /still/ missing the point that most people who own multiple 
> copies of a single have them from non-UK countries where there is no 
> CD1/CD2 crap, and thus they have the same issue with these media 
> players. 
No. I don't think I can be accused of missing that point.
> What you're suggesting amounts to one rule/convetion to suit 
> those who exclusively buy UK CD singles and one for everyone else who 
> has to suffer through dupes anyway. 
I'm suggesting keeping the rule that allows both people who have
UK-style pairs and those who don't to have a greater degree of control.
The solution you have seems to me to exclude people who buy UK singles
on the grounds that if other people can't do this, no-one should be able to.
> Take the situation at 
> http://musicbrainz.org/artist/067f26c1-d678-410e-8217-e554a3418143.html 
> for example; most of the singles of course have no cd1/cd2 except the UK 
> pair. If you own two of those you still have the problem.
>   
This is by no means a panacea, but I think it is an improvement.
> The answer of course is to get a better media player. Media players I've 
> used will consider releases different if they're in different folders .
>   
I'd be happy to take a look at any names you can suggest.
> In the meantime, I will continue my quest to rid the database of these 
> (disc 1/2) single menaces by maliciously looking for a release in 
> another format/country as justification for removal.
>
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