Brian Schweitzer | 12 Dec 2008 05:43
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Re: Audio Drama

This has come up several times, going back to my original proposal for an OTR style, back in April 2008 or so.  The major probloem is that these ought to be treated as NATs by show title, date, and show title, but don't well fit the normal MB structure.  However, especially with more and more radio shows offering themselves (see npr.org) online, my sense is that we'll quite soon see more of these, and not just shows from the 1920's and 30's, but modern shows as well.

Does anyone have any good ideas as to how we can possibly handle radio shows - dramas, as well as non-dramas, if the goal is to handle not only musical audio, but all audio?

Brian

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 3:24 AM, Bram van Dijk <bram_van_dijk-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:46:01 -0500
> From: sailorleo-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> To: musicbrainz-style-VWJlPdIPk9unah5wVhspdpv38IJrVKKD@public.gmane.org
> Subject: Re: [mb-style] Audio Drama

>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Z <johnnyooh-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Any idea on how to deal with artists on tracks that are audio drama, radio
> > drama, radio theatre, etc.? Should it be the writer? What if it is a drama
> > re-enacting a manga (comic)? Should it be the script writer or the poriginal
> > manga creator? (I'm thinking about Video Girl Ai's 2nd soundtrack:
> > http://eyevocal.ottawa-anime.org/ailovemusic/vgaist2.htm ) I couldn't find
> > anything on the wiki.
> >
>
> Personally, I'd say mark the script writer as the composer,
 

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Gioele | 12 Dec 2008 23:08
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Music DVDs

Hello,

I need opinions on http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9734124 and
DVDs in general.

That guy took a DVD, ripped the audio and put it on a CD. The Disc ID
has to go (http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9789356), but what
about the release itself?

Should we keep this kind of releases? I think that, as a music
encyclopaedia, we should. But is this the correct way to keep track of
DVD releases?

What is your opinion?

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Simon Austin | 12 Dec 2008 23:37
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Re: Music DVDs

I believe they're fine - apart from the discid - going by

http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3941#comment:1

http://www.nabble.com/DVD-Video-releases-of-concerts-td17004870s2885.html

http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-April/002079.html

- Si: chiark

Gioele wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I need opinions on http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9734124 and
> DVDs in general.
>
> That guy took a DVD, ripped the audio and put it on a CD. The Disc ID
> has to go (http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9789356), but what
> about the release itself?
>
> Should we keep this kind of releases? I think that, as a music
> encyclopaedia, we should. But is this the correct way to keep track of
> DVD releases?
>
> What is your opinion?
>
>   
Nikki | 13 Dec 2008 04:38
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Re: Music DVDs

Gioele wrote:
> I need opinions on http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9734124 and
> DVDs in general.
>
> That guy took a DVD, ripped the audio and put it on a CD. The Disc ID
> has to go (http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9789356), but what
> about the release itself?
>
> Should we keep this kind of releases? I think that, as a music
> encyclopaedia, we should. But is this the correct way to keep track of
> DVD releases?
>
> What is your opinion?
>   

My opinion is basically that I don't see a problem with them. I went 
into a bit more detail a few months ago:
http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2008-May/017759.html

Nikki
Gioele | 13 Dec 2008 10:55
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Re: Music DVDs

Simon Austin wrote:
> I believe they're fine - apart from the discid - going by
> 
> http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3941#comment:1
> http://www.nabble.com/DVD-Video-releases-of-concerts-td17004870s2885.html
> http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-April/002079.html

After this discussion, someone should sum up these position in a wiki page.

Jim? Brian?

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Brian Schweitzer | 13 Dec 2008 16:30
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Re: Music DVDs

I'll try to put something together.  for DVD-Video rips, last I had the conversation about these in edit notes, I think there also was a consensus that it ought to only be the main program, rather than including all the various (and potentially differing based on the exact DVD regional release) bonus stuff.  Maybe those should be NATs if anything?  I also would agree with the concept in the ticket you linked, though, that DVD-A ought to be differentiated from DVD.  Actually, I would love to see the full  ReleaseTypeRestructuringProposal implemented, but that's perhaps involving some server coding and can wait til after the code rewrite.

Brian

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Gioele <gioele-jeERWPXkMA9eoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
After this discussion, someone should sum up these position in a wiki page.

Jim? Brian?

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Brian Schweitzer | 14 Dec 2008 06:05
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Artist names, full and otherwise

Before I throw out an RFC, I thought I'd just generally ask for opinion on this.

This is something I've fought against about in many edits, including a few I caught while I was able to have only a few hours net access the past months.  (I should note that I seem to typically lose these discussions, with the "common shortened form" typically being voted as more desired than the "full form", at maybe a 10:1 ratio.)  The most recent I can recall is http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=9486029 .  I wanted to wait to bring it up here, though, until I was able to be back online consistently.

I do understand the points raised in these discussions.  Therefore, perhaps there is a need, and some utility, in having not only the artist name field, but a sub "full name" field?  I realize that aliases are sometimes used for this currently, however, in my opinion, aliases are not a functional equivalent, in that they also, and more commonly, are used to store misspellings (thus obfuscating which spelling of a full name might be the correct one), and also are not accessible via the webservice, making it impossible for those like me who might desire to use metadata which does include the full name, rather than some truncated form.

Brian

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Lukáš Lalinský | 19 Dec 2008 12:00
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RFC: New AR for linking to official artist/label YouTube pages

See http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2730 -- can anybody think of
any reasons to not add it?

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Mustaqil Ali | 19 Dec 2008 12:41
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Re: RFC: New AR for linking to official artist/label YouTube pages

I can't see any reason not to add it, as long as more thought has been given towards issues like what to do with international subdomains of YouTube pages, and how to "normalise" the URLs.

By this, I mean auto correcting the URL to http://www.youtube.com/user/blargh or http://www.youtube.com/channelname and not http://[de|whatever subdomain].youtube.com/

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Subject: [mb-style] RFC: New AR for linking to official artist/label YouTube pages

See http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2730 -- can anybody think of
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Jason | 19 Dec 2008 18:29
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Re: RFC: New AR for linking to official artist/label YouTube pages

Why would you enforce a www?

International subdomains matter for the user. You'll piss people off if you force them to English "International" YouTube, since they'll have to reload the whole page just to get the different social networks they like :P.

On Dec 19, 2008, at 4:41 AM, Mustaqil Ali wrote:

I can't see any reason not to add it, as long as more thought has been given towards issues like what to do with international subdomains of YouTube pages, and how to "normalise" the URLs. 

By this, I mean auto correcting the URL to http://www.youtube.com/user/blargh or http://www.youtube.com/channelname and not http://[de|whatever subdomain].youtube.com/

From: Lukáš Lalinský <lalinsky-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Sent: Friday, 19 December, 2008 11:00:50
Subject: [mb-style] RFC: New AR for linking to official artist/label YouTube pages

See http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/2730 -- can anybody think of
any reasons to not add it?

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