Ross A | 10 May 02:01 2010
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High-res PNG problem

Hi, new user here. I'm running MusEdit in WINE on an Ubuntu 10.04 system. It works just fine, to transcribe
mountain dulcimer tab, with a couple of small problems. The one I wish to discuss here is exporting the .med
file to a .png image file. It doesn't work, except in lo-res, which will not print out too successfully when
I use openoffice to insert it in a document and export that to .pdf, I can tell, too many jagged edges,
particularly on joins between 8th notes.

Anybody else got this problem or solved it?

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jack_gvr | 10 May 19:16 2010
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Re: High-res PNG problem

Well! It's very nice to hear that MusEdit runs on Wine! Thank you for this bit of info - this could remove my
last reasonable obstacle to migrating to Linux! (Inertia aside.)

On the PNG question, I am running Windoze 2K, and I frequently export PNG files both Hi- and lo-res, without
issue. Only prob with the hi-res is that they are too huge sometimes...

However, I am not positive that I have done a hi-res .png export from the latest version, so I will try it later
this morning and see if there's a problem. Could it be a Wine issue?

- jack

--- In musedit <at> yahoogroups.com, "Ross A" <brashley46 <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Hi, new user here. I'm running MusEdit in WINE on an Ubuntu 10.04 system. It works just fine, to transcribe
mountain dulcimer tab, with a couple of small problems. The one I wish to discuss here is exporting the .med
file to a .png image file. It doesn't work, except in lo-res, which will not print out too successfully when
I use openoffice to insert it in a document and export that to .pdf, I can tell, too many jagged edges,
particularly on joins between 8th notes.
> 
> Anybody else got this problem or solved it?
>

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jack_gvr | 11 May 23:42 2010
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Re: High-res PNG problem

Ross -- I am having no problem exporting a hi-res png of a full page of sheet music and pasting it into an
Illustrator file. I have MusEdit version 4.0.0. 

Want to describe your routine a little more for us? How big is the file? Are you exporting multiple pages to a
single PNG, or are you selecting sections to export? Are there some specific page elements that don't show
up? Or does nothing happen at all?

Are the files too big for Open Office to handle? (Seems unlikely, but who knows...) When I export a full page
PNG it measures about 2800 x 2200 pixels (file size only 60K), and when I take it into Illustrator,
Illustrator reads it as much larger than the page size, like about 5x the page size. Maybe Open Office is
only set up for little clip-art gifs... (doesn't seem too likely, I admit.)

Possible workaround: print to PDF and open that with a graphics program - Gimp? Photoshop? - for processing
into a graphics file. 
(I often open sheet music PDFs with Photoshop, delete unwanted elements, save as .psd and re-edit with
Illustrator using music notation fonts, but I don't need to do this with MusEdit files, of course. )

- jack

--- In musedit <at> yahoogroups.com, "jack_gvr" <gvr.jack <at> ...> wrote:
> However, I am not positive that I have done a hi-res .png export from the latest version, so I will try it
later this morning and see if there's a problem. Could it be a Wine issue?

> --- In musedit <at> yahoogroups.com, "Ross A" <brashley46 <at> > wrote:
> > Hi, new user here. I'm running MusEdit in WINE on an Ubuntu 10.04 
> system. ... 
> exporting the .med file to a .png image file. It doesn't work, except > in lo-res...

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Ross Ashley | 10 May 22:34 2010
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Re: High-res PNG problem

I suppose it could be a WINE issue. I don't have a working printer at 
the moment, so I can't test the direct print option from MusEdit. Would 
like to be able to get a high-resolution image into a .pdf to take down 
the street to the nearest Kinko's and print out.

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Ross Ashley | 12 May 01:07 2010
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Re: Re: High-res PNG problem

The file size of the .med is 44KB. I open it up in MusEdit, click on File > Export to > Hi-res image file, and nothing happens. Low-Res works fine, but I would not want to print it.

How would OpenOffice be involved?

I'd like to print to PDF, but I can't figure out how to do that in Ubuntu 10.04.

On 10-05-11 05:42 PM, jack_gvr wrote:
 

Ross -- I am having no problem exporting a hi-res png of a full page of sheet music and pasting it into an Illustrator file. I have MusEdit version 4.0.0.

Want to describe your routine a little more for us? How big is the file? Are you exporting multiple pages to a single PNG, or are you selecting sections to export? Are there some specific page elements that don't show up? Or does nothing happen at all?

Are the files too big for Open Office to handle? (Seems unlikely, but who knows...) When I export a full page PNG it measures about 2800 x 2200 pixels (file size only 60K), and when I take it into Illustrator, Illustrator reads it as much larger than the page size, like about 5x the page size. Maybe Open Office is only set up for little clip-art gifs... (doesn't seem too likely, I admit.)

Possible workaround: print to PDF and open that with a graphics program - Gimp? Photoshop? - for processing into a graphics file.
(I often open sheet music PDFs with Photoshop, delete unwanted elements, save as .psd and re-edit with Illustrator using music notation fonts, but I don't need to do this with MusEdit files, of course. )

- jack


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jack_gvr | 30 May 22:30 2010
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Re: High-res PNG problem

Hi Ross!

--- In musedit <at> yahoogroups.com, Ross Ashley <brashley46 <at> ...> wrote:

> File > Export to > Hi-res image file, and _nothing_ happens. 

OK! that's descriptive!

So the next thing that should happen is that a "save as" window should open (at least on a Windoze system),
offering you a folder and default filename for the .png file about to be created, like "save as
Musedit1.png." 
You don't get this screen?

Have you by chance tried to select a portion of the file and export that?

(I'm fishing, here, you understand... trying to be helpful, hoping I am not annoying. :) )

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jack_gvr | 30 May 23:08 2010
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Re: High-res PNG problem


--- In musedit <at> yahoogroups.com, Ross Ashley <brashley46 <at> ...> wrote:
> The file size of the .med is 44KB. 
...
> Ubuntu 10.04.

Hi Ross, 
looking back at your posts, you haven't mentioned the MusEdit version number. If you are using a different
version than I am, then I could check that version on my machine, to see if the .png export is working here. 

I'm using MusEdit 4.0.0 . What's your version?
If you are using the same, then that probably points to some issue with WINE, which wouldn't be at all
improbable, you know. It's my understanding that many of the programs which will run under WINE only run
because some programmer has gone over them with a fine-tooth comb to make sure that WINE can respond to
every specific resource call that the program makes to Windows. Otherwise they won't go, becouse Windows
is such a huge piece of bloatware that nobody knows what the heck all is in it, least of all Bill Gates. It
wouldn't be surprising to me if nobody had gotten around to fixing the little piece of WINE that ought to
handle this .png export, which quite likely relies on the Windows API in some way to complete - I say this
based on the fact that Doug Rogers is proud among other things
  of the very small memory requirement of MusEdit, to accomplish which no doubt a lot of things are farmed out
to the operating system. For instance, I recall reading that the original core of MusEdit was a Windows
MIDI Programmer's Toolkit.    

I haven't read of anybody taking on MusEdit's requirements for WINE.
I'd be delighted if someone did.
I didn't find it here:
http://appdb.winehq.org/

or at this extended URL (that you will have to paste back together probably):

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?bIsQueue=false&bIsRejected=false&sClass=application&sReturnToTitle=Browse%20Applications&sTitle=Browse+Applications&iItemsPerPage=25&iPage=25&iappCategoryOp0=11&sappCategoryData0=29%3Cbr%20/%3E&sOrderBy=appName&bAscending=true&iItemsPerPage=25&iPage=26

All the best - jack

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Ross Ashley | 31 May 01:12 2010
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Re: High-res PNG problem

 > I'm using MusEdit 4.0.0 . What's your version?
4.0.3, Jack, the latest.

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