Logging web sites

Do we have a process in place for updating the web site?  I'm trying to go through any issues that might exist
with doing a release of Log4j2 and this is one of them.

Re: Logging web sites

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
> Do we have a process in place for updating the web site?  I'm trying to go through any issues that might
exist with doing a release of Log4j2 and this is one of them.

I am not aware of a specific process (old timers might want to correct me).
So far I know we have updated the website whenever the release has
been published. I am not a huge fan of restricting website updates to
releases and think we should be able to update at any time we want.

This again touches the question with pubsub. We need to make a
decision if we move to mvn site:deploy or do something else.

Cheers
Christian

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Re: Logging web sites

Re: Logging web sites

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
> I'm actually more concerned with us having to use svnpubsub
> (see http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html).  The maven team created a
> plugin - http://maven.apache.org/sandbox/plugins/asf-svnpubsub-plugin/  to
> aid in this but I haven't tired it. I also understand that it requires the
> main website to have something done to it first.

didn't know about the mvn plug - thanks!

> Log4j2 uses the Maven site plugin so I guess I really need to know is what
> the location of the svn directory would be to pass to svnpubsub:prepare.

What about:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/$project

For example:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4j2
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4php
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/main (start site)

and so on

>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
> Do we have a process in place for updating the web site?  I'm trying to go
> through any issues that might exist with doing a release of Log4j2 and this
> is one of them.
>
>
> I am not aware of a specific process (old timers might want to correct me).
> So far I know we have updated the website whenever the release has
> been published. I am not a huge fan of restricting website updates to
> releases and think we should be able to update at any time we want.
>
> This again touches the question with pubsub. We need to make a
> decision if we move to mvn site:deploy or do something else.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>
>

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Re: Logging web sites

I'm OK with this, but I'm not sure if infra is OK with that structure. Based on that I think what we want to
request is the following be added to the rules.

/x1/www/www.apache.org/dist/logging: %(DIST)s/release/logging

/x1/www/logging.apache.org: %(ASF)s/logging/site/main
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j2: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j2
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4php: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4php
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4cxx: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4cxx
/x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4net: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4net

chainsaw and log4j companions also show up on the main site. Do we also want those?

Ralph

On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> I'm actually more concerned with us having to use svnpubsub
>> (see http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html).  The maven team created a
>> plugin - http://maven.apache.org/sandbox/plugins/asf-svnpubsub-plugin/  to
>> aid in this but I haven't tired it. I also understand that it requires the
>> main website to have something done to it first.
> 
> didn't know about the mvn plug - thanks!
> 
>> Log4j2 uses the Maven site plugin so I guess I really need to know is what
>> the location of the svn directory would be to pass to svnpubsub:prepare.
> 
> What about:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/$project
> 
> For example:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4j2
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4php
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/main (start site)
> 
> and so on
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do we have a process in place for updating the web site?  I'm trying to go
>> through any issues that might exist with doing a release of Log4j2 and this
>> is one of them.
>> 
>> 
>> I am not aware of a specific process (old timers might want to correct me).
>> So far I know we have updated the website whenever the release has
>> been published. I am not a huge fan of restricting website updates to
>> releases and think we should be able to update at any time we want.
>> 
>> This again touches the question with pubsub. We need to make a
>> decision if we move to mvn site:deploy or do something else.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Logging web sites

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
> I'm OK with this, but I'm not sure if infra is OK with that structure. Based on that I think what we want to
request is the following be added to the rules.
>
> /x1/www/www.apache.org/dist/logging: %(DIST)s/release/logging
>
> /x1/www/logging.apache.org: %(ASF)s/logging/site/main
> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j
> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j2: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j2
> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4php: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4php
> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4cxx: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4cxx
> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4net: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4net

great, didn't know it is possible.

> chainsaw and log4j companions also show up on the main site. Do we also want those?

I think so. Imho we should start treat Chainsaw more as a product on
its own. Companions is small but we should treat it the same way. That
would ease things I think. But thats just my 2 cents.

Cheers
Christian

>
> Ralph
>
> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>> I'm actually more concerned with us having to use svnpubsub
>>> (see http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html).  The maven team created a
>>> plugin - http://maven.apache.org/sandbox/plugins/asf-svnpubsub-plugin/  to
>>> aid in this but I haven't tired it. I also understand that it requires the
>>> main website to have something done to it first.
>>
>> didn't know about the mvn plug - thanks!
>>
>>> Log4j2 uses the Maven site plugin so I guess I really need to know is what
>>> the location of the svn directory would be to pass to svnpubsub:prepare.
>>
>> What about:
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/$project
>>
>> For example:
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4j2
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4php
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/main (start site)
>>
>> and so on
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do we have a process in place for updating the web site?  I'm trying to go
>>> through any issues that might exist with doing a release of Log4j2 and this
>>> is one of them.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not aware of a specific process (old timers might want to correct me).
>>> So far I know we have updated the website whenever the release has
>>> been published. I am not a huge fan of restricting website updates to
>>> releases and think we should be able to update at any time we want.
>>>
>>> This again touches the question with pubsub. We need to make a
>>> decision if we move to mvn site:deploy or do something else.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> https://www.timeandbill.de
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Re: Logging web sites

Does anyone else have any other thoughts before I open an infra ticket?

Ralph

On Apr 18, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> I'm OK with this, but I'm not sure if infra is OK with that structure. Based on that I think what we want to
request is the following be added to the rules.
>> 
>> /x1/www/www.apache.org/dist/logging: %(DIST)s/release/logging
>> 
>> /x1/www/logging.apache.org: %(ASF)s/logging/site/main
>> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j
>> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j2: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j2
>> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4php: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4php
>> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4cxx: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4cxx
>> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4net: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4net
> 
> great, didn't know it is possible.
> 
>> chainsaw and log4j companions also show up on the main site. Do we also want those?
> 
> I think so. Imho we should start treat Chainsaw more as a product on
> its own. Companions is small but we should treat it the same way. That
> would ease things I think. But thats just my 2 cents.
> 
> Cheers
> Christian
> 
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm actually more concerned with us having to use svnpubsub
>>>> (see http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html).  The maven team created a
>>>> plugin - http://maven.apache.org/sandbox/plugins/asf-svnpubsub-plugin/  to
>>>> aid in this but I haven't tired it. I also understand that it requires the
>>>> main website to have something done to it first.
>>> 
>>> didn't know about the mvn plug - thanks!
>>> 
>>>> Log4j2 uses the Maven site plugin so I guess I really need to know is what
>>>> the location of the svn directory would be to pass to svnpubsub:prepare.
>>> 
>>> What about:
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/$project
>>> 
>>> For example:
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4j2
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4php
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/main (start site)
>>> 
>>> and so on
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Do we have a process in place for updating the web site?  I'm trying to go
>>>> through any issues that might exist with doing a release of Log4j2 and this
>>>> is one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am not aware of a specific process (old timers might want to correct me).
>>>> So far I know we have updated the website whenever the release has
>>>> been published. I am not a huge fan of restricting website updates to
>>>> releases and think we should be able to update at any time we want.
>>>> 
>>>> This again touches the question with pubsub. We need to make a
>>>> decision if we move to mvn site:deploy or do something else.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Christian
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Logging web sites

Re: Logging web sites

Re: Logging web sites

thank you Ralph!

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
> I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4699 and modeled it
> after Ant. That was the only project I know of that has sub sites.
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Apr 19, 2012, at 1:10 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:
>
> Sounds good to me. Having a separate folder (/site/main) for the main site
> is great. Currently it's in root and I'm not sure how I would go about
> updating it.
>
> Regards,
> Ivan
>
> On 19 April 2012 09:11, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone else have any other thoughts before I open an infra ticket?
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Ralph Goers
>> > <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> >> I'm OK with this, but I'm not sure if infra is OK with that structure.
>> >> Based on that I think what we want to request is the following be added to
>> >> the rules.
>> >>
>> >> /x1/www/www.apache.org/dist/logging: %(DIST)s/release/logging
>> >>
>> >> /x1/www/logging.apache.org: %(ASF)s/logging/site/main
>> >> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j
>> >> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4j2: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4j2
>> >> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4php: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4php
>> >> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4cxx: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4cxx
>> >> /x1/www/logging.apache.org/log4net: %(ASF)s/logging/site/log4net
>> >
>> > great, didn't know it is possible.
>> >
>> >> chainsaw and log4j companions also show up on the main site. Do we also
>> >> want those?
>> >
>> > I think so. Imho we should start treat Chainsaw more as a product on
>> > its own. Companions is small but we should treat it the same way. That
>> > would ease things I think. But thats just my 2 cents.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Christian
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Ralph
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:37 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ralph Goers
>> >>> <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> >>>> I'm actually more concerned with us having to use svnpubsub
>> >>>> (see http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html).  The maven team
>> >>>> created a
>> >>>> plugin -
>> >>>> http://maven.apache.org/sandbox/plugins/asf-svnpubsub-plugin/  to
>> >>>> aid in this but I haven't tired it. I also understand that it
>> >>>> requires the
>> >>>> main website to have something done to it first.
>> >>>
>> >>> didn't know about the mvn plug - thanks!
>> >>>
>> >>>> Log4j2 uses the Maven site plugin so I guess I really need to know is
>> >>>> what
>> >>>> the location of the svn directory would be to pass to
>> >>>> svnpubsub:prepare.
>> >>>
>> >>> What about:
>> >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/$project
>> >>>
>> >>> For example:
>> >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4j2
>> >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/log4php
>> >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/pubsub/main (start site)
>> >>>
>> >>> and so on
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ralph
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Ralph Goers
>> >>>> <ralph.goers <at> dslextreme.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do we have a process in place for updating the web site?  I'm trying
>> >>>> to go
>> >>>> through any issues that might exist with doing a release of Log4j2
>> >>>> and this
>> >>>> is one of them.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am not aware of a specific process (old timers might want to
>> >>>> correct me).
>> >>>> So far I know we have updated the website whenever the release has
>> >>>> been published. I am not a huge fan of restricting website updates to
>> >>>> releases and think we should be able to update at any time we want.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This again touches the question with pubsub. We need to make a
>> >>>> decision if we move to mvn site:deploy or do something else.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers
>> >>>> Christian
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> >>>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> >>> https://www.timeandbill.de
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > http://www.grobmeier.de
>> > https://www.timeandbill.de
>>
>
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