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Dave | 1 Sep 2010 04:37
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Re: Boosting participation and community in Apache Labs?

I now have a Roller task that runs periodically, gathers up to 30 blog
entries from the last 30 days and then sends out an email that lists
each entry with a link and a short excerpt. It can be configured to
send out this email once a month and to only include blog entries with
one specific tag, e.g. 'newsletter'

So, now the questions are about format, process and who does what.

First, what format should the newsletter take, what title and content
should be shown in addition to the blog entry summaries? Doe we need
special signature, links, disclaimers?

Next, what should the process be? Does somebody get the email, add
some cheerful chat at the start and then send it out or does the email
just go out automatically? I think the best approach might be for the
email to come to this mail list (dev@...), then
somebody on the list steps up to draft a short snappy intro, tweaks
the format, maybe adds some special messages from the ASF and sends it
out to a wide audience.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
- Dave

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@...> wrote:
> On 23/07/2010 13:37, Dave wrote:
>>>
>>> On 23/07/2010 12:45, Dave wrote:
>>>>
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Dave | 1 Sep 2010 04:39
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Re: Boosting participation and community in Apache Labs?

Another consideration: unless we push PMCs to be more active with
announcements on the blogs, we may not have enough blog activity to
generate a worthwhile monthly newsletter.

- Dave

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Dave <snoopdave@...> wrote:
> I now have a Roller task that runs periodically, gathers up to 30 blog
> entries from the last 30 days and then sends out an email that lists
> each entry with a link and a short excerpt. It can be configured to
> send out this email once a month and to only include blog entries with
> one specific tag, e.g. 'newsletter'
>
> So, now the questions are about format, process and who does what.
>
> First, what format should the newsletter take, what title and content
> should be shown in addition to the blog entry summaries? Doe we need
> special signature, links, disclaimers?
>
> Next, what should the process be? Does somebody get the email, add
> some cheerful chat at the start and then send it out or does the email
> just go out automatically? I think the best approach might be for the
> email to come to this mail list (dev@...), then
> somebody on the list steps up to draft a short snappy intro, tweaks
> the format, maybe adds some special messages from the ASF and sends it
> out to a wide audience.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
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Rahul Akolkar | 2 Sep 2010 18:21
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Re: Reviewing the evaluation process

Now that this year's program is done and there seemed to be consensus
on the items below when discussed, can we get the proposals below
reflected on the mentee ranking page [1] and other places as
appropriate?

I don't have a cwiki account, but that can be fixed if needed :-)

-Rahul

[1] http://community.apache.org/mentee-ranking-process.html

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@...> wrote:
> I'd like to make a few comments about issues that have arisen during the
> evaluation process for GSoC. I'm going to give my opinion on each, please
> treat this as lazy consensus - do speak up if you wish to disagree or add
> more items:
>
> Not enough visibility of the process
> ====================================
>
> There will always be someone who doesn't read the stuff we send out. Where
> this is the case I don't think we should worry ourselves.
>
> Sending to PMCs (including the incubator PMC) is sufficient to reach people.
> We don't want to send out to committers <at>  as the project as a whole needs to
> be behind taking on a GSoC student.
>
> Reaching PPMCs is more problematic, I think we should continue to rely on
> incubator mentors taking the message to their projects if they feel it is
> appropriate.
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Rahul Akolkar | 2 Sep 2010 18:25
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[GSoC] Mentor summit attendees

Have we decided who the two attendees are from the ASF? As it happens,
I will be in Sunnyvale that week (and FWIW, I mentored two students
this year).

-Rahul
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Kathey Marsden | 2 Sep 2010 18:37
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Re: Reviewing the evaluation process

  On 9/2/2010 9:21 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> Original Ideas are good
>> =======================
>>
>> Past experience has shown that if a student proposes their own idea and it
>> is accepted the student is going to be strong.
>>
>> PROPOSAL
>> --------
>>
>> Add the following to the mentor ranking:
>>
>> Is the project definition and idea originally the mentee's, the
>> mentor's or a collaborative effort? (0-2 points, 2 if mentee's idea, 1
>> if collaborative, 0 if mentor's)
>>
I am still not such a big fan of the "original idea" points in a 
standards base product and marking down for collaboration where we want 
to encourage interaction with the community.

One  minor clarification I would like to see made is in this item:

    * How does the mentor rate the student's chances of success, based
      on an in-person (face-to-face, video, audio, email) interview?
      (0-3 points, or 0-1 if email interview only)

To add an IRC interview as one of the 0-3 options.  Our students the 
last two summers  have mostly been from Sri Lanka and China and so other 
options hard to coordinate.  Even the IRC interview will require someone 
getting up in the middle of the night.
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Rahul Akolkar | 2 Sep 2010 18:53
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Re: Reviewing the evaluation process

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Kathey Marsden
<kmarsdenderby@...> wrote:
> On 9/2/2010 9:21 AM, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
>
> Original Ideas are good
>
> =======================
>
> Past experience has shown that if a student proposes their own idea and it
> is accepted the student is going to be strong.
>
> PROPOSAL
> --------
>
> Add the following to the mentor ranking:
>
> Is the project definition and idea originally the mentee's, the
> mentor's or a collaborative effort? (0-2 points, 2 if mentee's idea, 1
> if collaborative, 0 if mentor's)
>
> I am still not such a big fan of the "original idea" points in a standards
> base product
<snip/>

OK, the idea is same as before (my comment on standards elsewhere in
the thread):

  http://markmail.org/message/j6qkbipevrnphe6v

> and marking down for collaboration where we want to encourage
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Ross Gardler | 2 Sep 2010 22:10
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Re: [GSoC] Mentor summit attendees

No we've not decided yet. Who else is interested?

I am, but I've been before and happy to make room for others. 

Sent from my mobile device.

On 2 Sep 2010, at 17:25, Rahul Akolkar <rahul.akolkar@...> wrote:

> Have we decided who the two attendees are from the ASF? As it happens,
> I will be in Sunnyvale that week (and FWIW, I mentored two students
> this year).
> 
> -Rahul
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Luciano Resende | 2 Sep 2010 22:15
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Re: [GSoC] Mentor summit attendees

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@...> wrote:
> No we've not decided yet. Who else is interested?
>
> I am, but I've been before and happy to make room for others.
>

I'm interested, and I'm local so it shouldn't be a big overhead,
having said that, I've been there before and happy to make room for
others

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Noirin Shirley | 2 Sep 2010 22:19
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Re: [GSoC] Mentor summit attendees

I'm interested, and haven't been before, for whatever that's worth :-)

Noirin

On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@...> wrote:
> No we've not decided yet. Who else is interested?
>
> I am, but I've been before and happy to make room for others.
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> On 2 Sep 2010, at 17:25, Rahul Akolkar <rahul.akolkar@...> wrote:
>
>> Have we decided who the two attendees are from the ASF? As it happens,
>> I will be in Sunnyvale that week (and FWIW, I mentored two students
>> this year).
>>
>> -Rahul
>
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Ross Gardler | 3 Sep 2010 00:54
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Re: Reviewing the evaluation process

On 02/09/2010 17:21, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> Now that this year's program is done and there seemed to be consensus
> on the items below when discussed, can we get the proposals below
> reflected on the mentee ranking page [1] and other places as
> appropriate?

Yes - thanks for picking it up.

>
> I don't have a cwiki account, but that can be fixed if needed :-)

You are a committer right? As long as you are then please go ahead and 
create a CWiki account and I'll give you the necessary rights.

The reason we need you to be a committer is that since we auto-publish 
the wiki to the website we need to ensure we have a CLA on file for you.

Ross

>
> -Rahul
>
> [1] http://community.apache.org/mentee-ranking-process.html
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Ross Gardler<rgardler@...>  wrote:
>> I'd like to make a few comments about issues that have arisen during the
>> evaluation process for GSoC. I'm going to give my opinion on each, please
>> treat this as lazy consensus - do speak up if you wish to disagree or add
>> more items:
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